Im staying away, and i think you should too!

[Haristess]

Guys & gals.......
ive been looking at buying this game, but since the piracy post, steam security post, and having seen youtubers, having to add their social media accounts, from ticktock facebook and such, ive decided to give this game a miss.
Its overly expressing the concern of exploitation of personal information collection, and given its an Asian product, it concerns me even more, regarding security.

These posts, threatening action over piracy, which too me, expresses a lack of content and depth of the game for the asking price of £39, which too me, is the only reason as to why they would make a post announcement such as this.
Further more, making a security post announcement, explaining how we should protect our accounts, when this is just a game, is either stupid or throws out security concern vibes regarding this product...

I strongly suggest staying away from this game, no matter how much your keen to play a Sims4 killer/replacement.

Its far too invasive for my liking, and using AI on top of all of this, is just screaming Bad things.
Its one thing having AI alone in a game, but requesting data collecting too, is a very scary thought.
Do we even know what AI the game is using? and is the company behind building the AI involved in anyway? its a very scary thought.
No game should essentially be spyware.

I know all of you are excited for a new sims type game, but please think about protecting yourself, and what games such as this are communicating.

Please do think about this.
Thanks.

[Nightheart]

Origineel geplaatst door Tay of the Lor:

Are we really still pretending, in 2025, that "they" don't already have all our info? Like, are you new? Put your tin-hats away.

"We always get frigged so we should just keep on getting frigged"

[Unrealtairo]

The new law in CA AB2426 was explicitly made to counter situations as the one Krafton has created.

The concern isn't so much "Will it have DRM at release" and I think a lot of users are missing that.

It's that they already broke the law and put it on everyones PC using the demo & streamer copies with"OUT" their consent.

If the game has it or not at release isn't even the problem, YET, but it might be, its that they just up and put it on peoples rigs and are trying to remain silent on it, all meanwhile their mods on discord/reddit are trying to scrub the truth about that rather than discuss makes it more creepy.

Wait til it releases to see how this company is going to handle things when they get caught sticking their hand in the cookie jar, basically. I'm still no longer going to play it after this personally, companies get one strike for me. But I'm still going to observe what happens, and how much tries to get covered up.

[Tay of the Lor]

Origineel geplaatst door Unrealtairo:

The new law in CA AB2426 was explicitly made to counter situations as the one Krafton has created.

The concern isn't so much "Will it have DRM at release" and I think a lot of users are missing that.

It's that they already broke the law and put it on everyones PC using the demo & streamer copies with"OUT" their consent.

If the game has it or not at release isn't even the problem, YET, but it might be, its that they just up and put it on peoples rigs and are trying to remain silent on it, all meanwhile their mods on discord/reddit are trying to scrub the truth about that rather than discuss makes it more creepy.

Wait til it releases to see how this company is going to handle things when they get caught sticking their hand in the cookie jar, basically. I'm still no longer going to play it after this personally, companies get one strike for me. But I'm still going to observe what happens, and how much tries to get covered up.

Without peoples permission? We all clicked, "I agree"

[Haristess]

Origineel geplaatst door Unrealtairo:

The new law in CA AB2426 was explicitly made to counter situations as the one Krafton has created.

The concern isn't so much "Will it have DRM at release" and I think a lot of users are missing that.

It's that they already broke the law and put it on everyones PC using the demo & streamer copies with"OUT" their consent.

If the game has it or not at release isn't even the problem, YET, but it might be, its that they just up and put it on peoples rigs and are trying to remain silent on it, all meanwhile their mods on discord/reddit are trying to scrub the truth about that rather than discuss makes it more creepy.

Wait til it releases to see how this company is going to handle things when they get caught sticking their hand in the cookie jar, basically. I'm still no longer going to play it after this personally, companies get one strike for me. But I'm still going to observe what happens, and how much tries to get covered up.

I installed the demo, but never booted the game.
ive uninstalled it already too.

well... thats something i didnt know about, and is confirming my worries.
Its fast becoming less about the game, but more about spyware.

I wonder if this company has any links to any government or information gathering companies.
this is fast becoming an issue like all the chinese phone network drama.

[Cobra]

Origineel geplaatst door Xautos:

another user who has jumped on a bandwagon before they know for sure what Krafton is doing with Inzoi going into early access. if you had stated this on release day and Denuvo anti-tamper was still on the game i wouldn't contest your point of view.

As it is right now, will Krafton step away from this or will they continue to go full steam ahead? It is ultimately up to them if they want to succeed or fail at this.

They did not spend hundreds of thousands of dollars or potentially millions in Denuvo licensing and implementation, for a demo. This is obvious cope

[SmallArchangel]

Origineel geplaatst door Haristess:

at the price of playing a game, you could have varies data breaches, your accounts hacked, and bombard you with unwanted advertisements, and maybe using AI to influence your decision making and view points on things in the real world.
Its potentially a very dangerous product, especially as theres a feature in the game, where you can openly chat with the AI.

I can see some very immature individuals here.
no wonder the world has alot of problems.

I have played several games which use Denuvo. I have never noticed performance issues, or had my account hacked, or been swamped with emails or advertisements as a result.

Don't fool yourself that your data isn't already out there. What exactly do you think Denuvo is going to do? Steal your bank details? Sell information to marketing companies? News for you, having a smart phone and the internet has already opened you to this, Denuvo doesn't need to.

[N8-Yue]

Origineel geplaatst door Tay of the Lor:

Origineel geplaatst door Unrealtairo:

The new law in CA AB2426 was explicitly made to counter situations as the one Krafton has created.

The concern isn't so much "Will it have DRM at release" and I think a lot of users are missing that.

It's that they already broke the law and put it on everyones PC using the demo & streamer copies with"OUT" their consent.

If the game has it or not at release isn't even the problem, YET, but it might be, its that they just up and put it on peoples rigs and are trying to remain silent on it, all meanwhile their mods on discord/reddit are trying to scrub the truth about that rather than discuss makes it more creepy.

Wait til it releases to see how this company is going to handle things when they get caught sticking their hand in the cookie jar, basically. I'm still no longer going to play it after this personally, companies get one strike for me. But I'm still going to observe what happens, and how much tries to get covered up.

Without peoples permission? We all clicked, "I agree"

Nope, we didn't. There was no mention of Denuvo in their TOS which means we didn't agree to sending data to Denuvo.

[Adngel]

- Sharing the social media accounts is optional, that's not required to play the game. I linked my twitch account, not because Inzoi required it, but because Twitch requires it to can transfer my Twitch's DROPS rewards into the game, like any other game that uses Twitch drops. Besides, social media accounts only have the personal information I give to them which generally is few.

- I've got no interest in piracy, so I'm not interested in the antipiracy strategy. I'm satisfied with the announced price for the showed content and quality.

- Protecting games services accounts are also a very common practice, specially when there are invesment on them. Nobody will care if they loose the save game of "Silent Hill 2", but there is a team to help customers who lost their accounts of "World Of Warcraft" or "Dead by Daylight" because the time and cash a client invest on them is much higher. Inzoi promises itself as a game service, so account protection is something expected and logical.

- I neither have any inconvenient with the use of generative AI, there are not any evidence of they used not-authorised content for the database, and for the player ,the tool is also optional. You are not forced to use AI to generate your assets.

I feel most of these "fears" haven't got a real foundation.

[Haristess]

Origineel geplaatst door SmallArchangel:

Origineel geplaatst door Haristess:

at the price of playing a game, you could have varies data breaches, your accounts hacked, and bombard you with unwanted advertisements, and maybe using AI to influence your decision making and view points on things in the real world.
Its potentially a very dangerous product, especially as theres a feature in the game, where you can openly chat with the AI.

I can see some very immature individuals here.
no wonder the world has alot of problems.

I have played several games which use Denuvo. I have never noticed performance issues, or had my account hacked, or been swamped with emails or advertisements as a result.

Don't fool yourself that your data isn't already out there. What exactly do you think Denuvo is going to do? Steal your bank details? Sell information to marketing companies? News for you, having a smart phone and the internet has already opened you to this, Denuvo doesn't need to.

Im not talking about DRM / Denuvo.

Im talking about the fact the game uses AI in the game, of which you can speak too, aswell as linking all your social media, plus all the creepy vibes from the announcement posts.

Its other people talking about DRM.

I dont think people understand what Inzoi is.
If you have watched extensive youtube vids on the game, you will have seen that you can open a chat with the AI, but is currently under construction.
Given theres going to be younger people potentially playing this game, this really concerns me, especially if theres no regulation of whats being communicated to said AI, and what the AI says in return.

I also do not know what it does using your personal information from your social platforms, but my guess isnt to the benefit of you.

[SmallArchangel]

Origineel geplaatst door Haristess:

Im not talking about DRM / Denuvo.

Im talking about the fact the game uses AI in the game, of which you can speak too, aswell as linking all your social media, plus all the creepy vibes from the announcement posts.

Its other people talking about DRM.

I dont think people understand what Inzoi is.
If you have watched extensive youtube vids on the game, you will have seen that you can open a chat with the AI, but is currently under construction.
Given theres going to be younger people potentially playing this game, this really concerns me, especially if theres no regulation of whats being communicated to said AI, and what the AI says in return.

I also do not know what it does using your personal information from your social platforms, but my guess isnt to the benefit of you.

Ok then, your smart speaker or mobile phone can do this, too. As for social platforms, linking them to the game is not mandatory. I never link anything if I don't have to, as I don't particularly trust social media. I repeat, we are already surrounded by AI, we just aren't necessarily aware of it.

This game is being open about it, that to me is less shady than it's use in other areas where its use is not specified.

[Xautos]

Origineel geplaatst door Cobra:

Origineel geplaatst door Xautos:

another user who has jumped on a bandwagon before they know for sure what Krafton is doing with Inzoi going into early access. if you had stated this on release day and Denuvo anti-tamper was still on the game i wouldn't contest your point of view.

As it is right now, will Krafton step away from this or will they continue to go full steam ahead? It is ultimately up to them if they want to succeed or fail at this.

They did not spend hundreds of thousands of dollars or potentially millions in Denuvo licensing and implementation, for a demo. This is obvious cope

if that were even true there wouldn't have been an announcement about there being no Denuvo for the Early Access game. I'm trying to leave open the possibility that things can be different.

[Xautos]

Origineel geplaatst door Xautos:

another user who has jumped on a bandwagon before they know for sure what Krafton is doing with Inzoi going into early access. if you had stated this on release day and Denuvo anti-tamper was still on the game i wouldn't contest your point of view.

As it is right now, will Krafton step away from this or will they continue to go full steam ahead? It is ultimately up to them if they want to succeed or fail at this.

As i said, no need to jump on a bandwagon, there was still time to see what Krafton would do and they have made their choice officially.

[Tay of the Lor]

Origineel geplaatst door N8-Yue:

Origineel geplaatst door Tay of the Lor:

Without peoples permission? We all clicked, "I agree"

Nope, we didn't. There was no mention of Denuvo in their TOS which means we didn't agree to sending data to Denuvo.

Oh no! Denuvo gonna get us all lmao who cares? And they don't need your permission to use it either.

[Angel]

Origineel geplaatst door Tay of the Lor:

Without peoples permission? We all clicked, "I agree"

I checked, they have no more information than Steam.

[SmallArchangel]

Well, Denuvo isn't in now, so we can stop worrying about that aspect I hope.