Obvious review manipulation :: inZOI Algemene discussies

8 apr om 18:50

My review isn't fake. I genuinely enjoy the game and see it having potential. Plus I lack the time play it to much as I got kids and work. My kids so far been playing it daily.

#1

Daedrius

8 apr om 18:56

Origineel geplaatst door Spades:
Why do companies do this? Every time I see a flood of fake reviews on a title it just turns me off of it entirely.

You have proof?

#2

Spades 8 apr om 18:57

Origineel geplaatst door ☆　id/SweetRin　☆　JP:

Obviously your review isn't fake, you are steam level 456, have 500+ games and over a decade long owned account. Not every single one of the reviews are fake, just a great deal.

If you take a couple seconds and read a few, you'll find countless reviews from brand new accounts with 1 game owned badge, and one review. All these types of accounts will be a positive review.

Laatst bewerkt door Spades; 8 apr om 19:09

#3

Spades 8 apr om 19:03

Origineel geplaatst door Daedrius:
Origineel geplaatst door Spades:
Why do companies do this? Every time I see a flood of fake reviews on a title it just turns me off of it entirely.

You have proof?

#4

Daedrius

8 apr om 19:11

Doesn't mean anything. As far as you know they could regularly be console players and only got Steam specifically for this game. Considering the Sims has been the only game like it in the genre and it's been available on console for a long time and inZoi isn't, I'd say that's a very real possibility. A new life sims like "The Sims" is kind of a big deal since it literally was the only one.

#5

Spades 8 apr om 19:18

Origineel geplaatst door Daedrius:
Doesn't mean anything. As far as you know they could regularly be console players and only got Steam specifically for this game. Considering the Sims has been the only game like it in the genre and it's been available on console for a long time and inZoi isn't, I'd say that's a very real possibility. A new life sims like "The Sims" is kind of a big deal since it literally was the only one.

Are you just arguing to be contrarian?
A couple questions...

Do you think companies don't engage in steam review manipulation?
How often do you thing this occurs?
What do you think the ratio of products owned to products review on an average account?
Do you believe that someone brand new to steam, that hasn't even setup their account, would navigate through steam to leave a review?

Laatst bewerkt door Spades; 8 apr om 19:18

#6

Monkey 8 apr om 19:26

My question is how do we know this is the company behind the game doing this? I've seen my fair share of fans that'll buy a game several times just because they love it that much, or want to stick it to someone.

People like that are usually one of the catalysts behind the steam reviews being marked as off-topic for a period of time.

Not to disregard your claim, but just something to keep in mind since this is an accusation.

EDIT: It wouldn't let me load those profiles till after I wrote this, having looked at them I wouldn't be shocked if half of them are the latter group, the ones that joined to stick it to EA specifically.

Besides, I've seen a fair share of accounts that only have like 2-3 games because that's the only games those people ever really want or need. Kind of like people that only play Roblox or The Sims 4

Laatst bewerkt door Monkey; 8 apr om 19:30

#7

Holy Fool Sehrael heeft inZOI

8 apr om 19:28

Origineel geplaatst door Spades:
Origineel geplaatst door Daedrius:
Doesn't mean anything. As far as you know they could regularly be console players and only got Steam specifically for this game. Considering the Sims has been the only game like it in the genre and it's been available on console for a long time and inZoi isn't, I'd say that's a very real possibility. A new life sims like "The Sims" is kind of a big deal since it literally was the only one.

Are you just arguing to be contrarian?
A couple questions...

Do you think companies don't engage in steam review manipulation?
How often do you thing this occurs?
What do you think the ratio of products owned to products review on an average account?
Do you believe that someone brand new to steam, that hasn't even setup their account, would navigate through steam to leave a review?

Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? There's no foolproof way to prove that reviews are fake and his argument makes more sense than doommongering fakereviews.

#8

Spades 8 apr om 19:31

Origineel geplaatst door Monkey:
My question is how do we know this is the company behind the game doing this? I've seen my fair share of fans that'll buy a game several times just because they love it that much, or want to stick it to someone.

People like that are usually one of the catalysts behind the steam reviews being marked as off-topic for a period of time.

Not to disregard your claim, but just something to keep in mind since this is an accusation.

It won't directly be the company behind the game... as in the developer. Pretty rare a developer is responsible directly. Usually this would be done by a marketing/PR agency, often on the dole of the publisher, not the developer.

As for individual's reverse-review-bombing... this doesn't really happen in numbers enough to move a review, especially at a high price tag...

Laatst bewerkt door Spades; 8 apr om 19:33

#9

Spades 8 apr om 19:35

Origineel geplaatst door Holy Fool Sehrael:
Origineel geplaatst door Spades:

Are you just arguing to be contrarian?
A couple questions...

Do you think companies don't engage in steam review manipulation?
How often do you thing this occurs?
What do you think the ratio of products owned to products review on an average account?
Do you believe that someone brand new to steam, that hasn't even setup their account, would navigate through steam to leave a review?
Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? There's no foolproof way to prove that reviews are fake and his argument makes more sense than doommongering fakereviews.

Just expressing my outrage and frustration of injustice/immorality publicly online, like every perfectly healthy human lol

#10

Monkey 8 apr om 19:37

Origineel geplaatst door Spades:
Origineel geplaatst door Monkey:
My question is how do we know this is the company behind the game doing this? I've seen my fair share of fans that'll buy a game several times just because they love it that much, or want to stick it to someone.

People like that are usually one of the catalysts behind the steam reviews being marked as off-topic for a period of time.

Not to disregard your claim, but just something to keep in mind since this is an accusation.

It won't directly be the company behind the game... as in the developer. Pretty rare a developer is responsible directly. Usually this would be done by a marketing/PR agency, often on the dole of the publisher, not the developer.

As for individual's reverse-review-bombing... this doesn't really happen is numbers enough to move a review, especially at a high price tag...

Then it sounds like it's not really something the developers can control, not to excuse the practice if this is taking place, but they can't exactly tell their partners to stop it without crossing boundaries.

Perhaps you should post a review for the game stating your concerns, that way others on the steam page that are concerned like yourself can investigate for themselves before they buy.

After all, where would we be if no one offered up potentially legitimate criticism towards a game company? Probably have more dissatisfied customers, that's where.

EDIT: wording

Laatst bewerkt door Monkey; 8 apr om 19:38

#11

Spades 8 apr om 19:47

Origineel geplaatst door Monkey:
Origineel geplaatst door Spades:

It won't directly be the company behind the game... as in the developer. Pretty rare a developer is responsible directly. Usually this would be done by a marketing/PR agency, often on the dole of the publisher, not the developer.

As for individual's reverse-review-bombing... this doesn't really happen is numbers enough to move a review, especially at a high price tag...

Then it sounds like it's not really something the developers can control, not to excuse the practice if this is taking place, but they can't exactly tell their partners to stop it without crossing boundaries.

Sounds like you should post a review for the game stating your concerns, that way others on the steam page that are concerned like you are can investigate for themselves before they buy.

After all, where would we be if no one offered up potentially legitimate criticism towards a game company? Probably have more dissatisfied customers, that's where.

Kinda what I did except in a discussion, instead of a review.

One way of discouraging this type of behavior is leaving this here, to potentially get engagement, and/or potentially have devs/pubs notice and/or drive sales away from such titles that engaged in said behavior. Obviously a lot of throwing a stone in an ocean in there but what else you got?

Being the fault of the developer or publisher maybe important moral information, but not actionable information, so in effect, to the consumer, they are one-in-the-same really...

#12

Jenaverse

8 apr om 19:54

Are you looking to buy the game? I’m curious what your post goal is here? I too dislike fake reviews but more so towards a lot of the curators (paid influencers) who write reviews, because let me tell you they’ve scammed me into thinking games are so polished and meets all my expectations when they clearly didn’t.

I too was put off by the abundance of influencers Krafton gifted keys to. But since this is a game that I was really interested in I went ahead and used Valve’s kind return policy to test it out. While I do have some mechanic issues with the game, I’m having a blast and I don’t regret supporting them during early access. I can’t wait to see how this game grows.

Like someone said some of these are most likely console players with new accounts and many will have zero levels. I’ve seen them pop up in games like FFVII Rebirth for example to share their pros and cons with the game as a console user, as Steam is a big outlet for them to do so who don’t use social media for example.

I’m more wary of curators and the likes but that’s just my personal sour experience with them being freeloading game collectors.

#13

Monkey 8 apr om 19:55

Origineel geplaatst door Spades:

Kinda what I did except in a discussion, instead of a review.

One way of discouraging this type of behavior is leaving this here, to potentially get engagement, and/or potentially have devs/pubs notice and/or drive sales away from such titles that engaged in said behavior. Obviously a lot of throwing a stone in an ocean in there but what else you got?

Being the fault of the developer or publisher maybe important moral information, but not actionable information, so in effect, to the consumer, they are one-in-the-same really...

Oh I'm not saying to avoid discussing it here, I only mention the reviews because I imagine most people will only look there and not into discussions. It's just you'd have a broader reach to the buyer before they pick it up if you write a review, as a fair bit of people will filter between positive and negative reviews before making their purchase.

Well not me, I filter by helpful and funny, mostly because the former tend to be more fair in my experience.

Just a thought, that's all.

#14

Monkey 8 apr om 19:57

Oh wait, I just realized you hadn't bought the game, thought you were like me and had returned it, lol

My bad, I see why you can't leave a review now.

Laatst bewerkt door Monkey; 8 apr om 19:57

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