Does a theocracy piss off just as many people as atheist?

[SWK]

I can't seem to stay ahead of the religious people, so now i'm thinking of indulging in the fantasy of a theocratic dictatorship. So, i'm wondering, does that piss off just as many people as being an atheistic dictatorship?

[SWK]

No, i know that if you create an atheist state, it doesn't get rid of the religious people. There is another thread on this forum i created ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about this very fact. Launched a HUGE atheist-theist argument. But my question right here is whether if i create a THEOCRATIC dictatorship, if it will cause just as much trouble in the game as atheistic.

[Kukko]

Theocracy can significally decrease crime and you get respect from religious people. Militarist dont like that thou.

[Brian]

I'd imagine the communists wouldn't like it very much either. Opiate of the masses and all.

[Nahui Ollin]

You get a diplomatic penalty later in the game. I think in modern times the middle east likes it though.

[Abalister]

If you want to please EVERY faction equally by default, just don't touch the constitution. By default, the game selects the middle option for every category. I keep it by default. And all my factions are easier to please.

[Commodus]

If you select that, you loose conscription right.....

[Bob]

Originally posted by SWK:

There is another thread on this forum i created ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about this very fact. Launched a HUGE atheist-theist argument.

The thread got locked due to blasphemy.

I don't understand why the constitutional options take atheists into account in the first place. Choosing between Catholicism, protestantism, muhammedanism and buddhism feels more civilized to me.

[SWK]

Originally posted by s4bo:

Originally posted by SWK:

There is another thread on this forum i created ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about this very fact. Launched a HUGE atheist-theist argument.

The thread got locked due to blasphemy.

I don't understand why the constitutional options take atheists into account in the first place. Choosing between Catholicism, protestantism, muhammedanism and buddhism feels more civilized to me.

Because atheism was a thing in the communist hell holes during those years. Interesting it got off the ground just about as well as me attempting to kick off all the theists from my island, but i'd prefer the game be less meta in that respect and actually let me try to make communism legit work. Because it really is the case that communism never got a fair shot due to everyone who implemented it being incompetent. There are tons of countries in europe which are highly socialist hybrids and it works marvelously because they aren't incompetent. So it isn't as black and white as they make it out to be in high school civics class that "socialism could never werk because corruption, lel".

[Rick]

I am afraid you don't know much about wha tis really happening europe...europe is a finacial mess and it is because of because of socialism. The whole damn place is on the verge of collapse. As Marget Thatcher correctly pointed out, "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."

[SWK]

Originally posted by Rick:

I am afraid you don't know much about wha tis really happening europe...europe is a finacial mess and it is because of because of socialism. The whole damn place is on the verge of collapse. As Marget Thatcher correctly pointed out, "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."

Yes, and as we know every politician speaks truth without a politicial bias or agenda. When a country is suffering for some reason, they always blame the real culprit, they don't just take it as an opportunity to transmute the frustration and fear caused by the problem into fuel for their political preferences. That would just be unprofessional.

[Cryten]

Socialism and Communism while having similar roots are different. Modern Socialism is about government controlled infrastructure, services and a regulated economy with such beliefs that natural resources should if not be public then should be heavily taxed to return the income to the people.
Communism was about government controlled infrastructure, jobs and a internally self sufficient economy that is entirely under the controll of the government. The Hybridised Socialist Captilist economies would weep if you described the edicts of communism in the same breath as thier developments.

This was slightly irrellevent so forgive me, but mentioning communism should work because of the european hybrid socialism kinda annoyed me. It implied a direct relationship in the structures. Dont use socialism to justify communism, use Chinas Hybrid Communism/Captialism for that.

[SWK]

Originally posted by Cryten:

Socialism and Communism while having similar roots are different. Modern Socialism is about government controlled infrastructure, services and a regulated economy with such beliefs that natural resources should if not be public then should be heavily taxed to return the income to the people.
Communism was about government controlled infrastructure, jobs and a internally self sufficient economy that is entirely under the controll of the government. The Hybridised Socialist Captilist economies would weep if you described the edicts of communism in the same breath as thier developments.

This was slightly irrellevent so forgive me, but mentioning communism should work because of the european hybrid socialism kinda annoyed me. It implied a direct relationship in the structures. Dont use socialism to justify communism, use Chinas Hybrid Communism/Captialism for that.

I know that communism is slightly different, but my point was that the hatred and belief that communism is inherently flawed might just be as baseless as the hatred and belief in the non-workableness of socialism. We(that is, americans) have such a crappy view of socialism because once upon a time there were very very crappy governments that were very socialist. So our history books and our culture just passed on the notion, "Socialism doesn't work," without regard to other factors. And we got socialist-capitalist hybrids in the world that work really really well now. So it is plausible that a communism hybrid might be at least competitive, however it remains to be seen whether it gives better outcomes than either heavy socialism, light capitalism hybrids or light socialism, heavy capitalist hybrids.

[Rick]

She stated the case fairly and correctly. Furthermore, her government was very successful and had no problems that gave opportunity to blame socialism or communism. She simply was wise enough to recognised their inherent flaws and considerate enough to pointed them out, regularly. Want to try again?

Originally posted by SWK:

Originally posted by Rick:

I am afraid you don't know much about wha tis really happening europe...europe is a finacial mess and it is because of because of socialism. The whole damn place is on the verge of collapse. As Marget Thatcher correctly pointed out, "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."

Yes, and as we know every politician speaks truth without a politicial bias or agenda. When a country is suffering for some reason, they always blame the real culprit, they don't just take it as an opportunity to transmute the frustration and fear caused by the problem into fuel for their political preferences. That would just be unprofessional.

[SWK]

Originally posted by Rick:

She stated the case fairly and correctly. Furthermore, her government was very successful and had no problems that gave opportunity to blame socialism or communism. She simply was wise enough to recognised their inherent flaws and considerate enough to pointed them out, regularly. Want to try again?

Originally posted by SWK:

Yes, and as we know every politician speaks truth without a politicial bias or agenda. When a country is suffering for some reason, they always blame the real culprit, they don't just take it as an opportunity to transmute the frustration and fear caused by the problem into fuel for their political preferences. That would just be unprofessional.

No, because i'm not interested in getting into an argument over a quote that doesn't even make sense within the reality of modern socialist governments. If you think that quote makes sense, you don't understand how socialism actually works.

[Bob]

All political ideologies are flawed in the sense that they are not adhering to the word of God. This is the sole reason why people eventually end up killing each other.