No DirectX 10 support?

[Spock]

Any chance of getting DX10 support? My main rig is a laptop running dual Nvidia 285m's and I dont really want to have to upgrade just to play tropico lol. I know I'll really need to sooner or later but at the moment this is the only game I own that requires DX11 out of all 266 that I own.

Yes I made the same mistake a lot of other people have made buying this game.. didnt check DirectX requirements. Yes its my fault. Yes I'm guilty of not checking minimum requirements. Frankly I'm shocked that Tropico is the first game that demands that I upgrade...I check minimum requirements for games that are graphically demanding(Crysis series, battlefield, etc..) which Tropico is not. I can run pretty much any of the late extremely demanding games without trouble maybe not maxxed out. But I can still play them fine on medium or low.

DX11 is not a common requirement at this point in time. Most games only require DX9 or 10. Kalypso should have made sure that the DX 11 requirement was in big flashing letters or at least extremely noticeable. As they are smart enough to know that one little requirement would mean that MANY MANY people would have to upgrade to play the game! I'm no game developer but it doesnt look to me like Tropico 5 is benefitting much from DX11 as opposed to Tropico 4.

Which makes me ask the question WHY ON EARTH DID YOU GUYS MAKE IT DX11 WHEN IT WASNT REALLY NEEDED AND WHEN YOU KNOW THAT TONS OF PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO UPGRADE TO PLAY IT!?

[Spock]

BUMP

[Zuluknob]

maybe because dx11 cards have been around for 4 years...

[Moregan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naQCHlyMxUg

[Spock]

Messaggio originale di Zuluknob:

maybe because dx11 cards have been around for 4 years...

Maybe they have but Tropico 5 doesnt need DX11. The graphics arent any better than Tropico 4. My point is if I can run games like Battlefield 4 or Crysis 1 or 2 why cant I run Tropico 5. Its obviously no where near any of the listed games or hundreds of other games that are way more graphically intensive than tropico will ever be and they still run on DX10.

[Spock]

Messaggio originale di Moregan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naQCHlyMxUg

LOL

[Silvi the Bun]

Messaggio originale di rcknrolfender79:

Messaggio originale di Zuluknob:

maybe because dx11 cards have been around for 4 years...

Maybe they have but Tropico 5 doesnt need DX11. The graphics arent any better than Tropico 4. My point is if I can run games like Battlefield 4 or Crysis 1 or 2 why cant I run Tropico 5. Its obviously no where near any of the listed games or hundreds of other games that are way more graphically intensive than tropico will ever be and they still run on DX10.

Because it's time to move on to DX11, more and more games will start to demand it soon enough I think. It's like back in the day with pixel shader 2, I had to buy a new graphic card to play Neverwinter Nights 2 and I was annoyed XD

[wolfgang_gruber]

Messaggio originale di rcknrolfender79:

Messaggio originale di Zuluknob:

maybe because dx11 cards have been around for 4 years...

Maybe they have but Tropico 5 doesnt need DX11. The graphics arent any better than Tropico 4. My point is if I can run games like Battlefield 4 or Crysis 1 or 2 why cant I run Tropico 5. Its obviously no where near any of the listed games or hundreds of other games that are way more graphically intensive than tropico will ever be and they still run on DX10.

Same here. Why don´t they support DirectX10. Seems like they had only directx11 beta testers -.-

[Spock]

Messaggio originale di Silvi:

Messaggio originale di rcknrolfender79:

Maybe they have but Tropico 5 doesnt need DX11. The graphics arent any better than Tropico 4. My point is if I can run games like Battlefield 4 or Crysis 1 or 2 why cant I run Tropico 5. Its obviously no where near any of the listed games or hundreds of other games that are way more graphically intensive than tropico will ever be and they still run on DX10.

Because it's time to move on to DX11, more and more games will start to demand it soon enough I think. It's like back in the day with pixel shader 2, I had to buy a new graphic card to play Neverwinter Nights 2 and I was annoyed XD

I understand theres a time to move on. But to make a game have a requirement that isnt needed is just ignorant. For instance Crysis 3.. it requires DX11... And you can obviously see the graphical advantage. I completely understand that. I'll play it when I upgrade. But tropico is not getting any advantages... maybe it runs a little smoother or something.. Dont know havent got to play it yet. But they should have and still should implement support for DX10 or even DX9. Kind of like Sid Meiers Civ V it lets you choose which one you want to roll with. Kalypso would sell more in the long run. The people that dont want to upgrade would still buy the game because they wouldnt have to upgrade and the people that dont need to upgrade would get the advantage of DX11 (whatever that advantage is in T5).

Saying tropico 5 needs DX11 to run is like saying a washing machine will only work with one kind of soap. This new washing machine only works with Gain. It would work fine with Tide brand soap but theres a little sensor inside that wont let it run because its not Gain brand.

[Spock]

Messaggio originale di wolfgang_gruber:

Messaggio originale di rcknrolfender79:

Maybe they have but Tropico 5 doesnt need DX11. The graphics arent any better than Tropico 4. My point is if I can run games like Battlefield 4 or Crysis 1 or 2 why cant I run Tropico 5. Its obviously no where near any of the listed games or hundreds of other games that are way more graphically intensive than tropico will ever be and they still run on DX10.

Same here. Why don´t they support DirectX10. Seems like they had only directx11 beta testers -.-

Actually from what I've read the beta only required DX9... Yeah I'm just as confused as you are right now.

[Spock]

No Dev's gonna answer my question?

[Mansen]

Messaggio originale di rcknrolfender79:

No Dev's gonna answer my question?

They already did - about a million times at this point. The answer was a loud and resounding "No - We do not plan to make it backwards compatible"

DirectX is more than just "graphics" - The languages are different and there's been a lot of changes in the 8 years it's been since DX10 came out. DX11 has been out for almost six years at this point.

[Gork]

don't bother to wait for DX10 fix from the developers, they are too busy, making DLCs to sell.

[Unholy Eve]

Messaggio originale di Thera:

A fix would be great auto-disabling dx11 features. My dx10 SLI GPU's still burns out many new dx11 GPU's. Tough it is shame not being able to run the game with this hardware.

Messaggio originale di Capitan Maximum:

PLEASE CHECK IF YOUR SYSTEM MEETS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS BEFORE PURCHASING THE GAME OR REPORTING ISSUES!

DirectX 11 support is needed at hardware level, which is why the minimum requirements list graphics cards that have specifically been tested and confirmed to run Tropico 5

There are no plans to add support for older graphics cards. The game and engine were redesigned from scratch as was requested by many players. The technical modernization calls for new hardware as with many new games. Tropico 5 ist not an exception. The game in its current form would not have been possible on deprecated DirectX 9 hardware and this does not affect visual quality only.

[selanderk]

You better get used to directx 11. From what I understand both the Xbox One and PS4 use it. That means it is going to become the standard for the majority of future releases. I would guess in the next year or 2 DirectX11 will be the norm.

[Thera]

Well I found a fix and it is working properly with windows 7 and my hardware. Use it own your own risk:

>Go start menu and run dxcpl.exe
>Click on Edit List
>Click on ... button and locate Tropico5Steam.exe on your hard drive, in my case it was:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Tropico 5\Tropico5Steam.exe
>Click on Add, the path will appear on list below, click OK
>Now on the 1st window of dxcpl.exe, at the bottom check Force WARP
>Set Feature Level Limit drop down box to 11_1
>Click Apply, click OK
>Run Tropico 5

I could run the game with this and it was working good enough for me, hope it helps.