Whats your opinion on the multiplayer

[butthead69]

I plan on buying this game today just gotta go to eb games for the steam cards, the only reason i am getting this game is for the multiplayer which im pretty excited about..

Whats your take on the multiplayer?

[bldarkman]

I've only played the multiplayer with one of my friends. It was quite enjoyable. It was basically the single-player, but with my friend on the island. You can choose whether or not to be on teams, and if you aren't on teams, you can attack each other. The only issue we've had with it so far is that his game keeps losing his multiplayer saves, so we cannot save and then load any of our games. I don't know why it is doing that.

[[sH[!]Ne]]

All player have to been online in order to load a multiplayer savegame. You can only load a saved mp game if all member of the game are online and in the mp lobby.
What exactly do you mean, by "keeps losing his multiplayer saves"?
He might have to scroll through his savegame list to find them, but you do not mean this, right?

[bldarkman]

It says that we can't load because he doesn't have the save files. It's really weird.

[[sH[!]Ne]]

Have you tried loading a different savegame? An earlier one from the session?
If he already had disconnected during or before the saving, he might not have received the savegame.

Maybe he has Steam-Cloud activated and didn't sync properly with the cloud?
Or does he use more than one PC and cloud saving is deactivated?

[green_sheep]

The soft population cap of 500 citizens per player ruins the whole fun. My friends and I have now all 200k money but we can't expand anymore. We don't even have used 50% building space but we can't do ♥♥♥♥ now and the year is just 1930.

[bldarkman]

It happens with every save we try. As for the Could sync, I'm not sure. Neither of us use more than one PC.

[Theme Park Games]

My opinion on multiplayer is that it isn't needed in this game. Time would have been much better spent with a map editor, challenge editor, and/or creating individual missions.

[butthead69]

Originally posted by grünes_schaf:

The soft population cap of 500 citizens per player ruins the whole fun. My friends and I have now all 200k money but we can't expand anymore. We don't even have used 50% building space but we can't do ♥♥♥♥ now and the year is just 1930.

500 per person ? really?

[Blodo]

Sounds like a good suggestion for a patch: increase pop limits... or at least make them adjustable. There's already mods that allow you to increase the pop limit and they seem to work fine, but it's doubtful they will work in multiplayer.

[[sH[!]Ne]]

Originally posted by Blodo:

Sounds like a good suggestion for a patch: increase pop limits... or at least make them adjustable. There's already mods that allow you to increase the pop limit and they seem to work fine, but it's doubtful they will work in multiplayer.

Older systems will not be able to work with higher population limits but we might implement something to fulfill the dream of our beloved Presidente: More Tropicans.

[[sH[!]Ne]]

Originally posted by bldarkman:

It happens with every save we try. As for the Could sync, I'm not sure. Neither of us use more than one PC.

Could you send me the savegame and logfiles from the session to [e-mail] please?
You will find everyting here:
C:\Users\Username\AppData\Roaming\Tropico 5\

Could you also try a new multiplayer match with your friend and then save and load just to verify if you can reproduce this please?

[Magistar]

Untill it has co-operative play I cannot recommend Tropico 5 for online play. I can recommend it for single player though.

[[sH[!]Ne]]

Originally posted by Exchequer:

Untill it has co-operative play I cannot recommend Tropico 5 for online play. I can recommend it for single player though.

I assume you aren't happy with the current co-op mode? What would you like to have improved?

[Magistar]

Originally posted by -=sH!Ne=-:

Originally posted by Exchequer:

Untill it has co-operative play I cannot recommend Tropico 5 for online play. I can recommend it for single player though.

I assume you aren't happy with the current co-op mode? What would you like to have improved?

For me co-op gameplay is the ability to share control over a single faction. I pre-ordered the game twice expecting this to be present. Meaning one palace, one treasury, one constitution, etc.

Co-op gameplay like that is demonstrated in competitors like Anno 1404 venice and Anno 2070. There have been numerous other games that allow this type of gameplay.

As far as I am concerned just playing on the same map is not co-operative gameplay. It is a bit like having a skirmish multiplayer mode where you can add AI. We should not call that co-op gameplay. Co-Op would be the shared campaign like Red Alert 3 or the shared unit control of Empire earth 2.

I know in Tropico 5 you can share power, construction workers, teamsters and give money, BUT this is too limited to call it co-operative gameplay. Also, in Tropico 5 there is no common enemy. Giving you limited incentive to keep playing. In the end you will just be doing your own thing on the same map.

I posted this once upon a time: http://forum.kalypsomedia.com/showthread.php?tid=24029

ps
I am sure this feature could be added. The only thing you will have to figure out is how to handle the random game events that require player interaction. In games like Anno they solved this by letting the game use the decision of the player that first responded to the choice.

[bldarkman]

Originally posted by -=sH!Ne=-:

Originally posted by bldarkman:

It happens with every save we try. As for the Could sync, I'm not sure. Neither of us use more than one PC.

Could you send me the savegame and logfiles from the session to [e-mail] please?
You will find everyting here:
C:\Users\Username\AppData\Roaming\Tropico 5\

Could you also try a new multiplayer match with your friend and then save and load just to verify if you can reproduce this please?

Will do. Thank you for your help.