2 questions about succession

[Akameka]

hey there. As I reallised that you can get time-skips in situations that don't really imply it (like I would expect that after a former-hero fight, but having it happen after the fortress recapture seems kinda forced IMO), I now have two questions for vets and/or thoses who are further in the game :

- What decides timeskip ? is it linked to a specific quest, or a number of quest before it happen ? Or number of battles and after that, next quest is a time-skip ?
- Is there a way to reroll which emperor candidate I got ? be it class/stats or appearance ? If I force quit at the moment of the choice, will my autosave be at the moment of the choice or before the previous boss. If the former, does it reroll the choice ?

thanks in advance

[Mr. Slam]

From what I've read, they took out the battle time limit, I think it was 250 battles trigger a time skip. So death and completing a certain number of quests moves time forward.
I haven't tried it, but you can choose to Abdicate at the throne and choose another character. I don't know if that causes a time skip.

[Akameka]

Originally posted by Mr. Slam:

From what I've read, they took out the battle time limit, I think it was 250 battles trigger a time skip. So death and completing a certain number of quests moves time forward.
I haven't tried it, but you can choose to Abdicate at the throne and choose another character. I don't know if that causes a time skip.

Okay, I just tested it with abdication and it doesn't force time-skip (you can only do it once per generation though). Abdication will reroll the choice of candidate of that generation but not their appearance nor stats, just who you can select (so you can actually select one of your party member and start with increased stats but with less LP¨if they lost some). Actually you can even cancel with right clic, then abdicate again to get another choice.

getting to character screen through abbdication doesn't give you an auto-save, but that might not be true for generation change ( I didn't test alt+f4 at that time because I didn't want to risk having to redo the boss in classical diifculty lol)

[Mr. Slam]

Ah, good to know if your unhappy with your initial choice. And roll back on a mistake, such as needing a Male character to do the Mermaid quest.

[markelphoenix]

Originally posted by Mr. Slam:

From what I've read, they took out the battle time limit, I think it was 250 battles trigger a time skip. So death and completing a certain number of quests moves time forward.
I haven't tried it, but you can choose to Abdicate at the throne and choose another character. I don't know if that causes a time skip.

So, Time Skip is:
1. Death of Emperor
2. Number of Quests completed?

Is there any other things that move or force a Time Skip? It's kind of jarring.

[Mr. Slam]

Originally posted by markelphoenix:

Originally posted by Mr. Slam:

From what I've read, they took out the battle time limit, I think it was 250 battles trigger a time skip. So death and completing a certain number of quests moves time forward.
I haven't tried it, but you can choose to Abdicate at the throne and choose another character. I don't know if that causes a time skip.

So, Time Skip is:
1. Death of Emperor
2. Number of Quests completed?

Is there any other things that move or force a Time Skip? It's kind of jarring.

It was jarring for me the first time, I wanted to go further with the character I chose.
There might be other certain events that forces a time skip.
For quest completion timeskips I heard that it could be after 3 or 4, or after taking a territory.

[Io]

You can alt+F4 the game and re-load your last auto save when choosing a new ruler if you don't like your options. Did it after finishing the dancer quest to get a Nereid Empress last night. It seems to pick 2 or 3 from your party members, 1 or 2 randoms from classes you've recruited and usually 1 "new" class you unlocked from the prior generation.

Didn't take any reloads for the Nereid to pop up as I did the Dancer quest, Nereid and Mole unlocks all in the same generation... Poor Paul though. xD

From personal experience time skips tend to happen like the above person mentioned usually after every 3 or 4 quest completions including a territory. I've seen information online that there is always a time skip after killing one of the heroes but I killed Dantarg yesterday and it didn't do a time skip immediately after. Still had time to unlock the Nereids and Dancer before a time skip happened.

[aona]

Time skips are based on the number of battles when certain events (mainly gaining territory) occur. If the number of battles is kept to a minimum, the occurrence of time skips will also be reduced. Note, however, that there are some events that include time skip as a condition for occurrence.

[Akameka]

does time skip always involve generation change, or is there a probability that it's short enough to keep the same team one time ? (I doubt so but I might ask as well )

Time skips are based on the number of battles when certain events (mainly gaining territory) occur. If the number of battles is kept to a minimum, the occurrence of time skips will also be reduced. Note, however, that there are some events that include time skip as a condition for occurrence.

Well, that sucks. So grinding all the fights on your way isn't nessessarily the best course of action then I guess ?

[Mr. Slam]

The only instance of that is with Gerard, all others are generation changes. The new faces are all great-grandchildren.

[Sombrero]

Originally posted by aona:

Time skips are based on the number of battles when certain events (mainly gaining territory) occur. If the number of battles is kept to a minimum, the occurrence of time skips will also be reduced. Note, however, that there are some events that include time skip as a condition for occurrence.

That's false in this remake.

I have had an emperor lasting forever I was actually surprised he dealt with two of the seven heroes and did seriously around 6-8 side quests before I had a 200+ years time skip (I didn't even know it was possible to skip that many years at once).

And my two emperors after him got a time skip only after 2 quests and way less battles.

I'm sadly already at the final emperor and I feel I have not done much in the game. So there might still be a tie to number of encounters but I have done less encounters on my latest emperors and they had much faster time skips.

I wish the final emperor would happen only because of the main story and not because of years because there's so many classes I wanted to try as Emperor that I did not have time for. I have unlocked about 7 formations which doesn't feel like a lot it's a bit frustrating.

Also the final emperor is crazy OP which makes the combat a bit steamroll-y. I guess I could switch to Hard difficulty but I wanted to do an entire playthrough on normal first to have a good feel of the balance.

[Akameka]

from what I am testing, it seems more linked to specific quest completion rather than a set number, but I might be wrong. I restarted to try to see how it works, and this time I decided to go south instead of doing the fortress mission.

I was able to complete the mine recovery without triggering the time skip, although I was still under the 200 fights at that point so that might have played a role into it ? (in comparison, I was a little above 200 in my first try and completing the fortress triggered it )

So far I've reached the mountain village and still on the first generation (above 200 fights now though, so next quest might trigger it ?). If helping them trigger the time skip, I'll try to experiment a little with it (for exemple, i'll try to see if abdicating delays it in any way or not, or if it trigger in 100% of case or not )

[Mr. Slam]

In the remake, battles shouldn't cause time skips anymore. That was one of the features I'd heard was removed as a QoL change.

[Akameka]

Originally posted by Mr. Slam:

In the remake, battles shouldn't cause time skips anymore. That was one of the features I'd heard was removed as a QoL change.

I guess it doesn't cause it, in the sense 'you end a battle and then "100 years latter..." ' but it might still be part of the trigger. Like "if more than xxx number in that generation, then quest completion trigger it".

It would be helpfull to know at which point other players did get a time-skip, to see if we all have the same or not. Did someone manage to finish the fortress without a time-skip ? Or did someone get a time-skip after the cristal mine in the south of the capital ?

[TheNewbClub]

first time playing this game and i was confused with the time jump.

I assumed i would keep Gerard for a long time (due to the character introduction/story) but then i went 100 years in to the future and have some random as the emperor ha.

I went straight to the fortress mission, completed it and then it time skipped. I am not sure how many fights I did but I think it was quite a lot.

Bit sad to see Gerard go as I was getting in to his character/story :P

[aona]

Originally posted by Sombrero:

That's false in this remake.

I have had an emperor lasting forever I was actually surprised he dealt with two of the seven heroes and did seriously around 6-8 side quests before I had a 200+ years time skip (I didn't even know it was possible to skip that many years at once).

And my two emperors after him got a time skip only after 2 quests and way less battles.

I'm sadly already at the final emperor and I feel I have not done much in the game. So there might still be a tie to number of encounters but I have done less encounters on my latest emperors and they had much faster time skips.

I wish the final emperor would happen only because of the main story and not because of years because there's so many classes I wanted to try as Emperor that I did not have time for. I have unlocked about 7 formations which doesn't feel like a lot it's a bit frustrating.

Also the final emperor is crazy OP which makes the combat a bit steamroll-y. I guess I could switch to Hard difficulty but I wanted to do an entire playthrough on normal first to have a good feel of the balance.

Sorry, my earlier post was incorrect.

Some key events have a set number of points, and if a certain number of points are exceeded, a time skip will occur.
If the points exceed half of the threshold, a time skip may occur depending on the number of battles.
The end of the event is the primary factor and the number of battles is a secondary factor.

These are the specifications of the original version and may have been modified in the remake.