Change red to mean "bad" (not negative) and green to mean "good" (not positive)

[ssoroka78]

The system for showing how policies affect other things is brilliant, my only criticism is that the red and green bars (which represent positive and negative values), should instead be red if bad, and green if good, regardless of whether it's positive or negative. This would give you a better sense of if you're trying to raise or lower certain values, as it can get confusing. (If I'm lowering the red unemployment, is that good or bad? that's like a triple negative or something)

[cyclicbug]

I prefer it how it is, as I want to decide what is good or bad ( in my terms ), and get the results I want by applying changes that produce negative or positive effects on the related situations and statistics, so it it just feels right to me as it is.

[NYXXIT]

Originally posted by ssoroka78:

The system for showing how policies affect other things is brilliant, my only criticism is that the red and green bars (which represent positive and negative values), should instead be red if bad, and green if good, regardless of whether it's positive or negative. This would give you a better sense of if you're trying to raise or lower certain values, as it can get confusing. (If I'm lowering the red unemployment, is that good or bad? that's like a triple negative or something)

I'm also in this boat. As I lost the voters count and popularity vote as I indeed thought green was good so I was always pushing to remove the the red and get green everywhere.

[ssoroka78]

Best of both worlds would be to make this a configurable option you could change in the settings!

[Sol]

Wait, what? Is that why I am losing all the time...?

For the love of (insert_diety), correct this madness. Green = Good, Red = Bad.

Long time system that many people are well accustomed to.

[AMQUACK]

No, it is better as it is now, and I agree with what cyclicbug said.

Sometimes I want to alienate a specific voter group, and reduce the number of people in their voting group, so as to boost their opposite. (ex: motorists are often in conflict with environmentalists and commuters, and in the game religious people's opinion on science hurts my economy), so I often welcome things that reduce the number of people in their voting group, and I don't care about whether they like my policy or not.

Despite what many posters think, the game tries to be somewhat neutral. As such, applying a value judgement to define explicitly what is "good" or "bad" would really take away from that.

Originally posted by Thadian:

Wait, what? Is that why I am losing all the time...?

Green = Good, Red = Bad.

Long time system that many people are well accustomed to.

The long time system is that Green (or black) is positive, and Red is negative - think of anything financial, for example. Considering most of the writing and such is black in the game, I think they made the correct choice. Now you know, so you shouldn't have any trouble losing for this silly reason. Use some logic on the policies - did you think that increasing your police force will cause an increase in crime?

[Konta Fox]

A moral compass would make the game less appealing, as I see it. The player should be the one judging what is good and bad, not the game.

[toad_004]

If we're talking about the GROUPS, then it should stay the way it is.
But if we're talking about stats (GDP, The Environment, Unemployment) then there's no reason to not have a simple Good-bad meter. Poverty is always bad, The Environment is always good, etc.

[True_Yaran]

Originally posted by CopyCat:

A moral compass would make the game less appealing, as I see it. The player should be the one judging what is good and bad, not the game.

Agreed 100%.

[billy]

Originally posted by ssoroka78:

Best of both worlds would be to make this a configurable option you could change in the settings!

hard to argue with having the choice , then everyone's happy.

I do think the OP has a point , the odd time i did get a little confused. Though i'm used to the way it works now so changing it would confuse me more :)

[cliffski]

Trouble is so many things are a matter of opinion. The number of socialists is rising. Is that good or bad? The level of immigration is falling, is that good or bad? The working week has gone up? is that a good thing? It entirely depends on your opinion. That is why we use green for higher and red for lower.