Monster level?

[ZombieKidzRule!]

Does anyone know if monster level is determine by highest character level in your party or average party level? Or maybe a combination?

I am wondering if leveling one or two characters up to say level 9 when the other 4 party members are level 8 will change what level monsters appear?

I have been experimenting, but I haven't been able to determine at what point the monster levels that appear might change.

I would guess that it might be highest level, but I'm not sure. For instance, if it was average party level, then a solo character at level 12 would immediately drop to a level 9 monster spawn as soon as you picked up Vi. Level 12 + level 6 / 2.

Thanks!

[goumindong]

I am pretty sure its highest. But there isn't any concrete answer. Its hard coded and in the course of a normal game levels don't change that much.

[Seewhyseeoh]

I thought it was average lvl, but have no hard facts to back up.

[ZombieKidzRule!]

Thanks for the responses. It only really matters for me in the beginning when I am trying to better control the monsters that appear in the monastery and on Monastery road. There are a few significant jumps in monster spawns in those areas.

[Tom L]

From what I've read, it is the average. http://www.zimlab.com/wizardry/recovered/flamestryke/wizardry8/faqsw8/faqw8index.html

[ZombieKidzRule!]

Thanks! I had lost track of that FAQ page!

[biogoo]

I have a party of average level 11 in the rapax castle. I guess I could become a templar, recruit Sexus (level 18) and see...

[ZombieKidzRule!]

That could be interesting if the monster level took that big of a jump because of one level 18 member.

[Slooge]

when I toyed with this, it was very clearly average level. I was levelling a solo character on level 21 androids in Arnika at the time. At some point in the mid-30's, the constant spawns of level 21 and 22 androids stopped and I started getting spawns of either the level 6 rogues or the level 12 floating head androids...nothing else at all. Same thing happens in the monastery, except you end up getting a boatload of those level 8 metallic slimes and none of the level 14 stuff anymore.

At that point, I added Vi and Myles, both around level 6 and started getting level 17/18 androids immediately. I was getting consistent level 21/22 spawns a few fights later when vi/myles leveled up enough to put the average back into the 20's once more. This very clearly indicated that average level is the way this works in 2 different areas.

[ZombieKidzRule!]

Great information, thanks!

[ZombieKidzRule!]

As a follow up, did you notice an immediate change or was it after resting? It seems that I have experienced significant changes in the types of monsters that spawn after a full rest, assuming that there has been a party level change and I am somewhere that the monster levels have a wider range.

[kirill-busidow]

What is maximum lvl for monster random spawns?

[ZombieKidzRule!]

I believe it depends on the area. For instance, the minimum and maximum level for monster random spawns in the Monastery would be different from inside Arnika would be different from the Northern Wilderness would be different from the Swamp, Bayjin, Rapax Rift, etc.

[biogoo]

I can check it for every single area you wish. For example in Arnika it is 22. In Ascension peak it is 50. But of course not every monster type can be of that level (so only some specific monsters in Arnika will be 22, or 50 in Ascension peak).

[kirill-busidow]

Originally posted by biogoo:

I can check it for every single area you wish. For example in Arnika it is 22. In Ascension peak it is 50. But of course not every monster type can be of that level (so only some specific monsters in Arnika will be 22, or 50 in Ascension peak).

Yes, if you can - check please.

And also what (random spawn!) monster is lvl 50? And what lvl i should be to meet him?


p.s.
I want to play game and see all monster types, so i also wonder what lvl i should be to finish game.

[kirill-busidow]

Also some monsters are very rare, like succubi slimes. I saw 1 (cemetary dungeon) in many many hours of W8.