Mech Challenges are the worst designed trash I have ever seen in a video game

[Zerixar]

You bang your face against it til the input reading, infinite turn speed, impossible tracking, borderline invulnerable AI that is guaranteed to hit you at the start before your controls activate decides to let you win whatever asinine and infuriating one sided cripple fight they stick you in. Whoever designed this "content" should lose their job.

[HighLanderPony]

They're pretty bad.

[Eluem]

I'm pretty sure the third Alysnes challenge is literally impossible. You have to kill a Tricera while you're already armor purged in something like 2 minutes. I never played the first beta but I saw a video of someone doing it back then and it honestly looked super easy. Now, Tricera heals armor constantly even while you're doing damage. I even found an exploit where you can stand right by one of the blocks of cover and fire non-stop and you still barely break his armor before you're almost out of time.

I think that even if you were allowed to stand still and fire continuously, you simply don't have enough dps to kill him in time.. or if so, it would be just barely with 0 seconds left on the clock.

I tried doing it for almost 2 before I decided to look it up and realized that they completely broke this challenge with the update and never fixed it. They need to give you like at least an extra minute for it to be reasonable.

Edit:
Also, they're simply not fun. They need to be entirely rebalanced and redesigned to actually be fun challenges. Right now they're tedious and frustrating, even when they are possible (which many simply aren't in the current build).

[Eluem]

Originally posted by Slayer:

I did two challenges so far. It was quite hard, but not impossible. The first one and the one for Welkin I finished them. I got the Reaper and Test Pilot titles.

When you say you did "the first one" you mean the challenge for Alysnes? If so, how did you beat the third challenge where you have to kill the constantly healing Tricera?

[Eluem]

Originally posted by Exolden:

Totally balanced to do challenges specifically against the two that were buffed despite already being ok while you are forced to use literally the worst mech in the game.

Are you referring to the Alysnes ones? Is Alysnes really the worst mech or do you mean someone else??

I simply can't get past Tricera for the third Alysnes challenge.. I even found an exploit where you can just dps him non-stop and he won't shoot you and I still can't come close to finishing it. Are you supposed to go face first into his machine gun with melee or something!?

[SpeckTech]

Originally posted by Eluem:

I'm pretty sure the third Alysnes challenge is literally impossible. You have to kill a Tricera while you're already armor purged in something like 2 minutes. I never played the first beta but I saw a video of someone doing it back then and it honestly looked super easy. Now, Tricera heals armor constantly even while you're doing damage. I even found an exploit where you can stand right by one of the blocks of cover and fire non-stop and you still barely break his armor before you're almost out of time.

I think that even if you were allowed to stand still and fire continuously, you simply don't have enough dps to kill him in time.. or if so, it would be just barely with 0 seconds left on the clock.

I tried doing it for almost 2 before I decided to look it up and realized that they completely broke this challenge with the update and never fixed it. They need to give you like at least an extra minute for it to be reasonable.

Edit:
Also, they're simply not fun. They need to be entirely rebalanced and redesigned to actually be fun challenges. Right now they're tedious and frustrating, even when they are possible (which many simply aren't in the current build).

agreed. The challenges are basically designed with either a specific solution in mind or just ♥♥♥♥ it like falcon's challenges. 2 skyraiders is pretty impossible.

btw Alysnes challenge 3 is just jumping on top of tricera and spamming some charged shots. it's really dumb considering 4 is just vs welkin again and 5 is just killing panther before the welkin that spawns halfway through clobbers your ass.

[Myztkl©-Kev]

im actually shocked this game is in open beta when there is so much stuff just clearly not even close to finished

[shadow garden dark evil pack]

Originally posted by Eluem:

I'm pretty sure the third Alysnes challenge is literally impossible. You have to kill a Tricera while you're already armor purged in something like 2 minutes. I never played the first beta but I saw a video of someone doing it back then and it honestly looked super easy. Now, Tricera heals armor constantly even while you're doing damage. I even found an exploit where you can stand right by one of the blocks of cover and fire non-stop and you still barely break his armor before you're almost out of time.

I think that even if you were allowed to stand still and fire continuously, you simply don't have enough dps to kill him in time.. or if so, it would be just barely with 0 seconds left on the clock.

I tried doing it for almost 2 before I decided to look it up and realized that they completely broke this challenge with the update and never fixed it. They need to give you like at least an extra minute for it to be reasonable.

Edit:
Also, they're simply not fun. They need to be entirely rebalanced and redesigned to actually be fun challenges. Right now they're tedious and frustrating, even when they are possible (which many simply aren't in the current build).

You can cheese it by standing on top of its head, AI just freezes up. Without this, I imagine it would be impossible.

The most miserable one has to be Panther vs Alysnes. Essentially, it has an auto-parry hack, so the only way to win is by baiting it into melee range so you can parry it, while managing your overshield so you don't get staggered by its gauss. Then, when you break its armor, it will clash melee with you forever, so you have to recharge your shields to full, bait its melee, parry the third hit, charge attack, then it pops armor and you have to do it all over again.

[Aîze]

I can see no one doing the Falcon Challenge V against Two Skyraiders, it's simply impossible without the previous AUX 1 - Auto-Aim the Falcon had at playtest. It all boils down to A.I pattern and how lucky you get if they are not strafing and just re-phasing to flight mode without sending out rockets and disruption fields up your a$$. I'd be surprised if anyone can actually win this challenge.

[Aîze]

Originally posted by Myztkl©-Kev:

im actually shocked this game is in open beta when there is so much stuff just clearly not even close to finished

Why do you think its in a beta test?

[Myztkl©-Kev]

Originally posted by Aîze:

Originally posted by Myztkl©-Kev:

im actually shocked this game is in open beta when there is so much stuff just clearly not even close to finished

Why do you think its in a beta test?

betas are usually completed games that just need minor tweaks or polish, this game isn't even close to finished.

[Captain_Kaiju]

Originally posted by Myztkl©-Kev:

Originally posted by Aîze:

Why do you think its in a beta test?

betas are usually completed games that just need minor tweaks or polish, this game isn't even close to finished.

Yeah the apparent missing voice acting and use of AI to fill in the gaps where actual VA lines aren't finished is very jarring for what's supposed to be near-release. Not to mention the horrible balancing with Mashmak

[Althotas Thoth Hermes]

Originally posted by Aîze:

I can see no one doing the Falcon Challenge V against Two Skyraiders, it's simply impossible without the previous AUX 1 - Auto-Aim the Falcon had at playtest. It all boils down to A.I pattern and how lucky you get if they are not strafing and just re-phasing to flight mode without sending out rockets and disruption fields up your a$$. I'd be surprised if anyone can actually win this challenge.

That one is doable if you fly really low near the ground. The Skyraiders fly higher so their disruption ♥♥♥♥ doesn't hit you and you can still missile their faces. But yeah it's a really stupid challenge as well. Not close to the worst ones though!

A lot of these "challenges" have nothing to do with skill and simply involve the player finding out some obscure way to exploit the AI's behaviour. Like Luminae Challenge 3 requires you to restart until your Tricera decides to shoot the Welkin instead of Alysnes. Much skill, wow.

[Zeraph]

And the most important thing is that a lot of them are simply impractical.

What do you mean I need to solo Tricera with mini-Alysnes? And what do you mean I can just stand on top of him to shoot for 3 minutes and win the "challenge", because the bot won't react?

And what the heck do you mean I should fight 2 Skyraiders at the same time? You can't choose duplicated mechs in 6 vs 6 or 3 vs 3, and what are the chances you will face this scenario in the "escape from tarkov" mode?

[Cyber Kitten]

Yeah when i do challenges that are hard i expect to leave them learning or at least using some of what i learned in the gameplay i'm going into.

Most challenges don't teach you anything, and expect you to cheese or find stupid ways to beat them. They are very worthless and really do expect you to just die, and die again over and over until you find the right pattern to beat the AI.

Its not great.

[Clickshe]

I completed the Luminae challenges, yeah, they are doable but, good lord they are absolutely unfun and no real design thought was actually put on most of them. Only the one with the allied Narukami one, is actually a well designed challenge.