"Extra" Software?

[Binket™]

By title, I mean things like "Anti-Cheats", DRMs, etc. if applicable.
Software that ultimately hurts the customer more than it has any right to, often unnecessary stuff that's added more for corporate scum-tactics than actual security.


At the risk of sounding racist (though, I don't intend of coming off as such), it IS made in Asian-based companies and those tends to have much more... "destructive" practices for their games.
This kinda notion stems mostly from Nexon, Tencent, etc. of whom rightfully deserve the title of "manipulative" and "scummy".

I haven't heard from "Seasun" besides Snowbreak-- which is a game I immediately swore off thanks to it's implementation of Gacha. (A practice I DESPISE.)
So naturally, I'm a bit skeptical. Any time Gacha is involved in any capacity is reason alone for concern.

So I was wondering if anybody who currently has the game have noticed anything odd about it.
I'm willing to give it a shot, but only if the game actually... y'know, TRIES to be a game instead of the usual slop we get nowadays ala Gacha shovelware.


... oh, and please behave. This is a genuine question and I'm not looking for drama. I just wanna enjoy a multiplayer game that doesn't leave me headaches for once, that's all.

[Choko]

Beware OP is likely burner account,

https://imgur.com/KMvUCV2

And all that karma point goes to me.

[Binket™]

Originally posted by Choko:

Beware OP is likely burner account,
https://imgur.com/KMvUCV2
And all that karma point goes to me.

No, not really.
I just don't use "Steam Discussions" often, otherwise most of that time was spent in Warframe-- a completely different genre.
Haven't seen other places of discussion for this game either, I only heard about it from a few people passively. Naturally I'd go to the one spot that's my next-best-bet.

Topic is a genuine question though. IS there any software I should be concerned about?
Stuff like "Easy Anti-cheat" or other infamous ones? Judging by the number of "Cheaters already?!" threads, it'd be safe to assume it's either a really poor anti-cheat or none at all.

[A Good Joe]

I hope it has anti cheat installed and gacha just to filter you.

[Binket™]

Originally posted by A Good Joe:

I hope it has anti cheat installed and gacha just to filter you.

... that's... unnecessarily rude.
Relax Bink, just grit your teeth and wait patiently. SOMEBODY is bound to answer the question... hopefully.

[Crocodile Crowd]

Originally posted by Binket™:

Originally posted by A Good Joe:

I hope it has anti cheat installed and gacha just to filter you.

... that's... unnecessarily rude.
Relax Bink, just grit your teeth and wait patiently. SOMEBODY is bound to answer the question... hopefully.

Solid question and one that I would like answered as well. I see only that they require a EULA agreement, but that's about it. I shall hope that they will not use some egregious form of DRM, but seeing as how they have some kind of battle royal game mode . . .

[DocBockNstein]

For whats it's worth their other game has no anti cheat. I don't mind battle eye or EZ but I'm not installing ACE. I'm willing to bet they are going to need at least one of these or this game is going to die from the cheater invasions.

[Binket™]

Originally posted by DocBockNstein:

I'm willing to bet they are going to need at least one of these or this game is going to die from the cheater invasions.

While on one hand, I agree.
It does seem however that their ingame bots are ABNORMALLY destructive.
Trying fighting against an AI Wilken or Alysnes, you can't get a single strike in on them.
It's not difficult to fight them when it's a person though, because these bots have INSANE "reaction time" so to speak.

I only mention the bots because they can show in lobbies and will effectively be so broken that they function LIKE cheaters. Narukami bots tend to lock onto targets that they have no business seeing as well.

So in a sense, I'm not sure if it IS cheaters... or if it's just really convincing names put on bots.
Either way, an Anti-Cheat is needed in some form. Let's just hope it's not one that digs too deeply to make things a hassle, because that will kill the game faster than bots/cheaters.

[Corvus]

Originally posted by Choko:

Beware OP is likely burner account,

https://imgur.com/KMvUCV2

And all that karma point goes to me.

That's rich, coming from a Level 0 Steam account who's profile is private, and also keeps appearing in discussion threads antagonizing people concerned about data security.

[⎝⧹Quirken⧸⎠]

If you have to say "this may sound racist" you shouldn't say whatever you were thinking. I'm anti rootkit, too, but seriously...

I'm all for anticheat, just not kernel-level.

[Binket™]

Originally posted by ⎝⧹Quirken⧸⎠:

If you have to say "this may sound racist" you shouldn't say whatever you were thinking.

Sometimes life is just weird like that. I know the internet loves latching onto stupid things, often to the detriment of everyone involved.
I'm mostly just covering my bases, as I know someone would LIKELY say "Oh, he just hates {XYZ}" instead of using their heads.

... that and chat here was looking pretty volatile as is, so I tried to avoid being another batch of vitriol to the pile. Y'know?

[Swole Diccus]

Originally posted by ⎝⧹Quirken⧸⎠:

If you have to say "this may sound racist" you shouldn't say whatever you were thinking. I'm anti rootkit, too, but seriously...

I'm all for anticheat, just not kernel-level.

what he said wasn't even racist. its just a region thing. not a race thing.

[⎝⧹Quirken⧸⎠]

Originally posted by Swole Diccus:

Originally posted by ⎝⧹Quirken⧸⎠:

If you have to say "this may sound racist" you shouldn't say whatever you were thinking. I'm anti rootkit, too, but seriously...

I'm all for anticheat, just not kernel-level.

what he said wasn't even racist. its just a region thing. not a race thing.

It is absolutely racist... there are 48 Asian countries, and that lumps them all together. Asians are not a monolith, nor are Asian countries. Asia has 17.21 million square miles of land and 4.6 billion people. There are 200 million companies in Asia (nearly half of the worldwide total). And you're telling me that saying "Asians companies are manipulative and scummy" is not racist and xenophobic?

Nexon is South Korean, and Tencent is Chinese. The devs of Mecha Break, Seasun Games, is primarily Chinese, but they also have employees in Silicon Valley, according to their website.

In any case, it was completely unnecessary to even mention that entire paragraph. It didn't add ANYTHING to the OP's main intent. What Nexon and Tencent do are irrelevant, since they have nothing to do with this game. Whether or not this game includes a kernel-level (rootkit) anti-cheat or not has nothing to do with the rest of Asia.

I hope they use less invasive anti-cheat, but given how generous the targeting is in this game, I doubt cheaters will really be a big problem.

[Choko]

Originally posted by Corvus:

Originally posted by Choko:

Beware OP is likely burner account,

https://imgur.com/KMvUCV2

And all that karma point goes to me.

That's rich, coming from a Level 0 Steam account who's profile is private, and also keeps appearing in discussion threads antagonizing people concerned about data security.

That sound even more rich coming from you when steam has those privilege. And you using Steam questioning about whataboutism. You are liability neither trustable.

https://imgur.com/I49oXP9

Lol lol blocked.

[Swole Diccus]

Originally posted by ⎝⧹Quirken⧸⎠:

Originally posted by Swole Diccus:

what he said wasn't even racist. its just a region thing. not a race thing.

It is absolutely racist... there are 48 Asian countries, and that lumps them all together. Asians are not a monolith, nor are Asian countries. Asia has 17.21 million square miles of land and 4.6 billion people. There are 200 million companies in Asia (nearly half of the worldwide total). And you're telling me that saying "Asians companies are manipulative and scummy" is not racist and xenophobic?

Nexon is South Korean, and Tencent is Chinese. The devs of Mecha Break, Seasun Games, is primarily Chinese, but they also have employees in Silicon Valley, according to their website.

In any case, it was completely unnecessary to even mention that entire paragraph. It didn't add ANYTHING to the OP's main intent. What Nexon and Tencent do are irrelevant, since they have nothing to do with this game. Whether or not this game includes a kernel-level (rootkit) anti-cheat or not has nothing to do with the rest of Asia.

I hope they use less invasive anti-cheat, but given how generous the targeting is in this game, I doubt cheaters will really be a big problem.

nah its not racist. its a cultural thing. especially in china. also im gonna save you some time. I didnt read all that sweet baby boy ♥♥♥♥ you wrote.

[marcus1503YT]

Originally posted by Binket™:

By title, I mean things like "Anti-Cheats", DRMs, etc. if applicable.
Software that ultimately hurts the customer more than it has any right to, often unnecessary stuff that's added more for corporate scum-tactics than actual security.


At the risk of sounding racist (though, I don't intend of coming off as such), it IS made in Asian-based companies and those tends to have much more... "destructive" practices for their games.
This kinda notion stems mostly from Nexon, Tencent, etc. of whom rightfully deserve the title of "manipulative" and "scummy".

I haven't heard from "Seasun" besides Snowbreak-- which is a game I immediately swore off thanks to it's implementation of Gacha. (A practice I DESPISE.)
So naturally, I'm a bit skeptical. Any time Gacha is involved in any capacity is reason alone for concern.

So I was wondering if anybody who currently has the game have noticed anything odd about it.
I'm willing to give it a shot, but only if the game actually... y'know, TRIES to be a game instead of the usual slop we get nowadays ala Gacha shovelware.


... oh, and please behave. This is a genuine question and I'm not looking for drama. I just wanna enjoy a multiplayer game that doesn't leave me headaches for once, that's all.

How much have you played the game now (10 hours)? Can you play the game with a controller and did you notice anything? Bad software? Is there a cheat in this game? Is the game good? Can you recommend it? I sent her a friend request but somehow it didn't work. That's why I'm writing it here, an answer would be really great. I don't speak English so it's translated with Google, I hope you can read it well.