What this game needs is...

[moderno!]

This game seems very interesting and I'd love to get it, but it could definitely use some Steam Achievements and maybe some Trading Cards. The art would be cool for cards, backgrounds, badges, & emoticons!

[qewlaidman]

I remember when people used to play games because they actually *wanted* to play them.

[Luigi]

Originally posted by kool aid man:

I remember when people used to play games because they actually *wanted* to play them.

Know how you feel, I hate how some people won't even play a game without achivements.

[Prtlnk]

I agree here though. In a game like this, the achievements are what keep me wanting to get all the outcomes, otherwise a single playthrough is usually enough for me.

[HaVoK308]

Originally posted by Super Kami Guru:

Originally posted by kool aid man:

I remember when people used to play games because they actually *wanted* to play them.

Know how you feel, I hate how some people won't even play a game without achivements.

Hate? It does not pertain to you. You could always try minding your own business. How another chooses to enjoy the games they paid for is their business.

[HamsterGuy]

Originally posted by HaVoK308:

Originally posted by Super Kami Guru:

Know how you feel, I hate how some people won't even play a game without achivements.

Hate? It does not pertain to you. You could always try minding your own business. How another chooses to enjoy the games they paid for is their business.

It affects the decisions that people in the gaming industry make. So it is his business, and that of any gamer concerened with actual games, rather than bells and whistles.

[PH4T3 <*.*>]

Originally posted by kool aid man:

I remember when people used to play games because they actually *wanted* to play them.

Pac-man was only officially accepted into arcades after they included achievements and trading cards.

[moderno!]

Originally posted by Shoshon:

I agree here though. In a game like this, the achievements are what keep me wanting to get all the outcomes, otherwise a single playthrough is usually enough for me.

All I meant is what this gentleman has pointed out. That it gives more value and reason to the game to have something to show for it. If I beat a game 100% and I get to show it off on my steam profile, that's what keeps me interested and coming back for more. I, personally, like to display what I've accomplished when it comes to video games. Instead of meaninglessly playing it for hours I can share what I've accomplished on my profile.

[Mr Music]

Who the bloody hell gives a rats bum if you beat the novelist let alone any game? sad statment their for that to be your pride my mate.

Originally posted by moderno!:

Originally posted by Shoshon:

I agree here though. In a game like this, the achievements are what keep me wanting to get all the outcomes, otherwise a single playthrough is usually enough for me.

All I meant is what this gentleman has pointed out. That it gives more value and reason to the game to have something to show for it. If I beat a game 100% and I get to show it off on my steam profile, that's what keeps me interested and coming back for more. I, personally, like to display what I've accomplished when it comes to video games. Instead of meaninglessly playing it for hours I can share what I've accomplished on my profile.

[moderno!]

a rats bum? lawl @ you. and Pride is a strong word "mate". Sitting at home playing video games for hours at a time isnt a prideful thing, atleast not for me. But if im gonna do it I might as well have something to show for it, i.e. proof that I completed a game.

[Blackdragon]

You do understand that a computer game "achievement" is not really an achievement, right?

More like a nerdness certificate.

To pointlessly waste hundreds of hours of your life just to get a virtual "badge" that acknowledges you've wasted these hours strikes me as fundamentally irrational.

I play games for the pleasure they give me (just like reading books/watching movies/playing sports etc.), and not for the sole purpose of wasting my time.

[Begomori]

I agree, I don't understand why this game has not cards or achievements, I'll buy the game because it's very interesting, but... Cards and achievements are nice details and a kind of "gift", I very appreciate when a game has these things.
All games that come out now have cards and achievements, and when a game has not them it's a little disappointing.

(sorry for my english, i did my best :$)

[Dustin Echoes]

The fact that people can't play a game without little messages massaging their ego and telling them they are brilliant bewilders me.

[moderno!]

Originally posted by Blackdragon:

You do understand that a computer game "achievement" is not really an achievement, right?

More like a nerdness certificate.

To pointlessly waste hundreds of hours of your life just to get a virtual "badge" that acknowledges you've wasted these hours strikes me as fundamentally irrational.

I play games for the pleasure they give me (just like reading books/watching movies/playing sports etc.), and not for the sole purpose of wasting my time.

I will admit that I play games such as Call Of Duty for hours of mindless killing "pleasure". But when it comes to puzzle games like this, I like to be able to show off the fact that I figured the whole thing out.

And I think what is more fundamentally irrational, is that you play a game like Dragon Age for 400+ hours without anything to show for it. I'll take my "nerdiness" (not nerdness, because that's not a word) badge over a "nothing to show for it" badge any day.

[Blackdragon]

Originally posted by moderno!:

I will admit that I play games such as Call Of Duty for hours of mindless killing "pleasure". But when it comes to puzzle games like this, I like to be able to show off the fact that I figured the whole thing out.

Is this a puzzle game, though? I thought it to be more of the interactive story variety.

And I think what is more fundamentally irrational, is that you play a game like Dragon Age for 400+ hours without anything to show for it. I'll take my "nerdiness" (not nerdness, because that's not a word) badge over a "nothing to show for it" badge any day.

Because I play the game for the pleasure of playing the game, not to "show off" my "leet skillz" before a bunch of nerds? Speaking of DA:O, I have also released a few mods for that game and am pleased with the satisfaction they brought to some other players. That would merit an "achievement", perhaps, but again I was doing it not for a "medal" but for the pleasure of making the game better for myself and others.

Do you also demand "achievements" for reading books, watching movies, doing your job etc.? It just strikes me as a kindergarden mentality when a child has to receive "stars" or other tangible bonuses for good behaviour and doing their homework. An adult understands that you do not need that sort of superfluous "encouragement" to do things that are useful and/or pleasing.

But, to each his own. I'm not looking to start a flame war over this. I was just surprised that some people won't play a game they find interesting and fun just because of lack of "achievements".

[moderno!]

ok, you have your opinion. I have mine. Some people share mine, some share yours. We'll agree to disagree.