Dreadful performance on integrated graphics

[BenDTU]

My system isn’t beefy by any means (It’s a NUC) but the game can barely hit 60FPS for me and goes below 30 when anything is happening in the background. Ikaruga runs like a champ, no idea why this game in particular would have issues.

[polynektar]

did u try and see if it runs better windowed?

[vittau]

It's quite weird because it runs extremely well on the Steam Deck, barely using any power (6~8W).
Maybe try installing one of these performance overlays to check how is the GPU and CPU usage, might help with debugging.

[Morty2989]

The Ikaruga port is also nearly a decade old. What does that have to do with anything.

[BenDTU]

Originally posted by Palmer_Eldritch:

The Ikaruga port is also nearly a decade old. What does that have to do with anything.

Ikaruga was the follow up to Radiant Silvergun by Treasure and is a more graphically demanding game.

[BenDTU]

Originally posted by jkgarrahan:

did u try and see if it runs better windowed?

Better but still chugging when things get busy.

[AmethystViper]

Originally posted by BenDTU:

Originally posted by Palmer_Eldritch:

The Ikaruga port is also nearly a decade old. What does that have to do with anything.

Ikaruga was the follow up to Radiant Silvergun by Treasure and is a more graphically demanding game.

Not to mention the PC port of Ikaruga was handled so much better.

[Morty2989]

Originally posted by BenDTU:

Originally posted by Palmer_Eldritch:

The Ikaruga port is also nearly a decade old. What does that have to do with anything.

Ikaruga was the follow up to Radiant Silvergun by Treasure and is a more graphically demanding game.

Right but you're not comparing actual St-V to Naomi arcade boards here. You're running a new game on integrated and pointing to something nine years old for validation. Of course something designed for hardware back then would run better.

[AmethystViper]

To illustrate my point, look at the options laid out here on Ikaruga's PC port. While the game maxes out at 1280x720 in Windowed mode (which I think is still really limited since it could easily do 1920x1080 or higher in Windowed mode), but even this PC port offers a native desktop resolution in Fullscreen, and it looks pristine and beautiful at 1080p or 4K in motion.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3072276132
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3072276292
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3072277149
Not only that, but it has a editable text file that lets you configure things outside of the game, like turning off V-sync, changing which monitor to use, and even how it loads stuff into RAM so you can decide how it can work on your system. Radiant Silvergun should have options and features similar to this on PC.

[BenDTU]

Originally posted by Palmer_Eldritch:

Originally posted by BenDTU:

Ikaruga was the follow up to Radiant Silvergun by Treasure and is a more graphically demanding game.

Right but you're not comparing actual St-V to Naomi arcade boards here. You're running a new game on integrated and pointing to something nine years old for validation. Of course something designed for hardware back then would run better.

I’m wondering why a port of a 25 year old game runs worse than its sequel which got a port 9 years ago at this point which runs flawlessly. I legit get better performance from Tekken 7 than I do right now. What is so special about Radiant Silvergun that that sort of poor performance on my system is to be expected?

[BenDTU]

Originally posted by vittau:

It's quite weird because it runs extremely well on the Steam Deck, barely using any power (6~8W).
Maybe try installing one of these performance overlays to check how is the GPU and CPU usage, might help with debugging.

Gave this a shot, the opening scene with the ships being deployed chugged at like 9 FPS yet the GPU usage didn’t get above 60%

[vittau]

Originally posted by BenDTU:

Originally posted by vittau:

It's quite weird because it runs extremely well on the Steam Deck, barely using any power (6~8W).
Maybe try installing one of these performance overlays to check how is the GPU and CPU usage, might help with debugging.

Gave this a shot, the opening scene with the ships being deployed chugged at like 9 FPS yet the GPU usage didn’t get above 60%

And the CPU?
Does it help at all if you use the lo-res option?

[Melodia]

Originally posted by BenDTU:

I’m wondering why a port of a 25 year old game runs worse than its sequel which got a port 9 years ago at this point which runs flawlessly.

Well, RS ran on ST-V, which is basically a Saturn with more memory, whereas Ikaruga ran on a NAOMI, which is basically a Dreamcast with more memory.

If you know anything about the history of those two machines, the answer becomes obvious.

[BenDTU]

Originally posted by vittau:

Originally posted by BenDTU:

Gave this a shot, the opening scene with the ships being deployed chugged at like 9 FPS yet the GPU usage didn’t get above 60%

And the CPU?
Does it help at all if you use the lo-res option?

CPU sitting at like 10%, using the Lo-res 1 option.

[Nyarlathotep]

Integrated graphics? Damn man what do you use as a computer, a rock?

[Live Wire Staff HAL]

Hi, everyone.

We have described interim measures in case the frame rate is not stable.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2450820/discussions/0/3936769163105400446/

I would like to find out, so could you tell me your PC specs and when the frame rate drops?
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2450820/discussions/0/3936769163105445986/