Permanent gear loss?

[Isalon]

Am I understanding this right - I just spent thousands of gold (newbie here) on equipment, died in the first dungeon, and the gear and my gold is permanently lost? AKA "git gud"?

[Mario]

yes, is a full loot extraction game, dont dump all your gold in 1 build

[LowIQ]

Originally posted by Isalon:

Am I understanding this right - I just spent thousands of gold (newbie here) on equipment, died in the first dungeon, and the gear and my gold is permanently lost? AKA "git gud"?

It isn't a case of git gud, it's a case of get good. Ie don't worry about buying gear until you're confident you're capable of taking down people in equal or greater gear. Just go in with the bare minimum, stash what you want, trade what you don't to players if it's green or better. Have fun, practice, try out any strats you might think could give you an edge, learn what the flasks do and when to use them, throw stuff at walls and see what sticks.

Let that gold build up and then when you know what you're doing you'll have the money stashed to roll for gear that comes with good gstats, which are what really make a piece of gear good or not.

Don't pressure yourself to BE good, give yourself the leeway to BECOME good.

[bpppg79]

Originally posted by LowIQ:

Originally posted by Isalon:

Am I understanding this right - I just spent thousands of gold (newbie here) on equipment, died in the first dungeon, and the gear and my gold is permanently lost? AKA "git gud"?

It isn't a case of git gud, it's a case of get good. Ie don't worry about buying gear until you're confident you're capable of taking down people in equal or greater gear. Just go in with the bare minimum, stash what you want, trade what you don't to players if it's green or better. Have fun, practice, try out any strats you might think could give you an edge, learn what the flasks do and when to use them, throw stuff at walls and see what sticks.

Let that gold build up and then when you know what you're doing you'll have the money stashed to roll for gear that comes with good gstats, which are what really make a piece of gear good or not.

Don't pressure yourself to BE good, give yourself the leeway to BECOME good.

How exactly is this person or any other player new to the game or not, supposed to have fun when they can't keep their passives unlocked because you have to meet a stat threshold and you get basically all of your stats from your gear?

Being able to make use of your passive abilities, so you can learn what your chosen class is capable of is supposed to be part of having fun while playing the game

[Isalon]

Originally posted by bpppg79:

Originally posted by LowIQ:

It isn't a case of git gud, it's a case of get good. Ie don't worry about buying gear until you're confident you're capable of taking down people in equal or greater gear. Just go in with the bare minimum, stash what you want, trade what you don't to players if it's green or better. Have fun, practice, try out any strats you might think could give you an edge, learn what the flasks do and when to use them, throw stuff at walls and see what sticks.

Let that gold build up and then when you know what you're doing you'll have the money stashed to roll for gear that comes with good gstats, which are what really make a piece of gear good or not.

Don't pressure yourself to BE good, give yourself the leeway to BECOME good.

How exactly is this person or any other player new to the game or not, supposed to have fun when they can't keep their passives unlocked because you have to meet a stat threshold and you get basically all of your stats from your gear?

Being able to make use of your passive abilities, so you can learn what your chosen class is capable of is supposed to be part of having fun while playing the game

This. This right here.
This is why I ragequit and I am so glad I dodged this trash bullet.
Enjoy your game, for those of who you like this kinda stuff. A lot of people are going to like it, but way more are going to be turned off by it.

[LowIQ]

Originally posted by bpppg79:

Originally posted by LowIQ:

It isn't a case of git gud, it's a case of get good. Ie don't worry about buying gear until you're confident you're capable of taking down people in equal or greater gear. Just go in with the bare minimum, stash what you want, trade what you don't to players if it's green or better. Have fun, practice, try out any strats you might think could give you an edge, learn what the flasks do and when to use them, throw stuff at walls and see what sticks.

Let that gold build up and then when you know what you're doing you'll have the money stashed to roll for gear that comes with good gstats, which are what really make a piece of gear good or not.

Don't pressure yourself to BE good, give yourself the leeway to BECOME good.

How exactly is this person or any other player new to the game or not, supposed to have fun when they can't keep their passives unlocked because you have to meet a stat threshold and you get basically all of your stats from your gear?

Being able to make use of your passive abilities, so you can learn what your chosen class is capable of is supposed to be part of having fun while playing the game

For starters I'd say walk before you can run, and if you REALLY want gear for passives that bad to learn, just wait at a boss with some thunder/stone flasks and throw one when you see a guy take the first hit of the combo. Usually that's a death and some free gear right there. And they're essentially free to craft. Just make a couple of runs for some flasks and profit. No need to even fight. You can make enough for a full purple gear set, at least on my server, for what you'll get in 1-3 successful runs.

It's just better to sell the gear and get worthwhile stuff than lose bad gear and be upset because it's all you have. I haven't even brought real gear into a fight yet, just the worthless int stuff to push me up to higher gear score lobbies, and I have a stash half full of purple sets, and I'll sell the useless ones tomorrow at peak times, start buying at around this time when no one's on on my server and the gear is cheap, keep rerolling til I get good gear, start fighting for real.

[bpppg79]

Originally posted by LowIQ:

Originally posted by bpppg79:

How exactly is this person or any other player new to the game or not, supposed to have fun when they can't keep their passives unlocked because you have to meet a stat threshold and you get basically all of your stats from your gear?

Being able to make use of your passive abilities, so you can learn what your chosen class is capable of is supposed to be part of having fun while playing the game

For starters I'd say walk before you can run, and if you REALLY want gear for passives that bad to learn, just wait at a boss with some thunder/stone flasks and throw one when you see a guy take the first hit of the combo. Usually that's a death and some free gear right there. And they're essentially free to craft. Just make a couple of runs for some flasks and profit. No need to even fight. You can make enough for a full purple gear set, at least on my server, for what you'll get in 1-3 successful runs.

It's just better to sell the gear and get worthwhile stuff than lose bad gear and be upset because it's all you have. I haven't even brought real gear into a fight yet, just the worthless int stuff to push me up to higher gear score lobbies, and I have a stash half full of purple sets, and I'll sell the useless ones tomorrow at peak times, start buying at around this time when no one's on on my server and the gear is cheap, keep rerolling til I get good gear, start fighting for real.

No, I'll not be doing it's what those without class do and I am not among them and the fact that people do things like that, is exactly why so many of us want to be able to avoid PvP!
So, we don't have to deal with the cowards who do that!

[LowIQ]

Originally posted by bpppg79:

No, I'll not be doing it's what those without class do and I am not among them and the fact that people do things like that, is exactly why so many of use want to be able to avoid PvP!
So, we don't have to deal with the cowards who do that!

Classy or not, everyone in purple gear looks the same. Flasks aren't there by accident and nobody ever said a rogue had to be classy.

[bpppg79]

Originally posted by LowIQ:

Originally posted by bpppg79:

No, I'll not be doing it's what those without class do and I am not among them and the fact that people do things like that, is exactly why so many of use want to be able to avoid PvP!
So, we don't have to deal with the cowards who do that!

Classy or not, everyone in purple gear looks the same. Flasks aren't there by accident and nobody ever said a rogue had to be classy.

I don't care, I said no and that means no! Doing things like that will just further dirty the reputation of PvP and legit PvPers. I'm not contributing to that kind of bs behavior, just so I can get some gear I should be able to get simply by playing the game in a way that brings me the most enjoyment!

As long as I have a choice, that kind of behavior can kiss every square inch of my arse!

[TripSin]

Kind of need to be scum to thrive in this cancer genre. Things like just winning by gear diffing people and ganking them are the central premise.

[LowIQ]

Originally posted by bpppg79:

I don't care, I said no and that means no! Doing things like that will just further dirty the reputation of PvP and legit PvPers. I'm not contributing to that kind of bs behavior, just so I can get some gear I should be able to get simply by playing the game in a way that brings me the most enjoyment!

As long as I have a choice, that kind of behavior can kiss every square inch of my arse!

Completely up to you. People are anxious about losing gear, I tell them to try without gear, people want to bring gear and are upset they can't maintain a level of gear that gives them passives, I give them ways to consistently get gear from square 1 starting with nothing to do that so they never go without. Like it, dislike it, do it, don't do it, whatever you want.

Idk why you're being so hostile over someone offering help though. Good help, that'll get you absolutely loaded without even having to kill anyone so you CAN enjoy the game however you want when you have money.

[Metro Gnome Holding Metronome]

Originally posted by LowIQ:

Originally posted by bpppg79:

I don't care, I said no and that means no! Doing things like that will just further dirty the reputation of PvP and legit PvPers. I'm not contributing to that kind of bs behavior, just so I can get some gear I should be able to get simply by playing the game in a way that brings me the most enjoyment!

As long as I have a choice, that kind of behavior can kiss every square inch of my arse!

Completely up to you. People are anxious about losing gear, I tell them to try without gear, people want to bring gear and are upset they can't maintain a level of gear that gives them passives, I give them ways to consistently get gear from square 1 starting with nothing to do that so they never go without. Like it, dislike it, do it, don't do it, whatever you want.

Idk why you're being so hostile over someone offering help though. Good help, that'll get you absolutely loaded without even having to kill anyone so you CAN enjoy the game however you want when you have money.

That's how he is, he's literally "mad cuz bad". It's why I have him blocked, he's tedious and slow.

[bpppg79]

Originally posted by LowIQ:

Originally posted by bpppg79:

I don't care, I said no and that means no! Doing things like that will just further dirty the reputation of PvP and legit PvPers. I'm not contributing to that kind of bs behavior, just so I can get some gear I should be able to get simply by playing the game in a way that brings me the most enjoyment!

As long as I have a choice, that kind of behavior can kiss every square inch of my arse!

Completely up to you. People are anxious about losing gear, I tell them to try without gear, people want to bring gear and are upset they can't maintain a level of gear that gives them passives, I give them ways to consistently get gear from square 1 starting with nothing to do that so they never go without. Like it, dislike it, do it, don't do it, whatever you want.

Idk why you're being so hostile over someone offering help though. Good help, that'll get you absolutely loaded without even having to kill anyone so you CAN enjoy the game however you want when you have money.

How exactly is refusing to behave like scum, being hostile? Especially since I'm avoiding making myself and the PvP community look bad. I know you can't answer me because there is no answer you can give, since that's not me being hostile at all just resolute. But please try I am curious to see what bs you respond with

[LowIQ]

Originally posted by bpppg79:

How exactly is refusing to behave like scum, being hostile? Especially since I'm avoiding making myself and the PvP community look bad. I know you can't answer me because there is no answer you can give, since that's not me being hostile at all just resolute. But please try I am curious to see what bs you respond with

Look at the way you're talking, and have been talking, my guy.

[bpppg79]

Originally posted by LowIQ:

Originally posted by bpppg79:

How exactly is refusing to behave like scum, being hostile? Especially since I'm avoiding making myself and the PvP community look bad. I know you can't answer me because there is no answer you can give, since that's not me being hostile at all just resolute. But please try I am curious to see what bs you respond with

Look at the way you're talking, and have been talking, my guy.

You mean normally? I'm not using all caps like I am shouting, not insulting anyone, and I'm not cursing anyone out. Nothing about the way I've been talking is hostile, but hey believe what you will we both know you will anyway.

Oh and your advice was to become the same kind of person, that ruined PvP for me and I refuse. I'll never be that kind of person and ruin someone else's gaming experience

[LowIQ]

Originally posted by bpppg79:

You mean normally? I'm not using all caps like I am shouting, not insulting anyone, and I'm not cursing anyone out. Nothing about the way I've been talking is hostile, but hey believe what you will we both know you will anyway.

Oh and your advice was to become the same kind of person, that ruined PvP for me and I refuse. I'll never be that kind of person and ruin someone else's gaming experience

Yeah, this, complete hostility with all this "ruining everyone's experience" stuff and all this calling people cowards because you're upset that you died in a pvp game and lost loot.

Don't get mad, get even, or don't, but don't get mad.