Death Knights Dmg aura with gear is insanely broken

[ItsJ-]

I just faced a purple geared death knight and his zone alone chunked half of my hp. Im a level 20 swordmaster, half blue and half purple gear with 4 passives activated and gems slotted. Thats insanity.

Pay close attention to the bottom left. My teammate gets pulled and than death knight charges a heavy but misses. My teammate only is taking damage from aura and in just about 4 seconds his health bar is basically all gone (blue geared). I took two hits and the rest of my damage taken is from aura while potted. Not sure if this is intended or maybe a cheater. You tell me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68DlevP2vFE

[LowIQ]

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I mean don't forget that you also took 25% from the hits you blocked without a shield and about 1/3 of your life in aura, and then there's clean 2hander hits from a guy running a 77 str build. And one of them looked like it might have been a power attack

I guess so. That just seems kinda crazy. Dont really wanna play a game where someone can do so much damage to me by just being next to me. Will see since this is last day of beta if that ends up getting nerfed at all on next time the games available. I have a hard time believing it wont though.

Honestly the only argument in this to me is that dk shouldn't have such high strength. He chunks you for nearly half your hp in one hit at the end and at the start chunks through your shieild and nearly 20% of your hp which unshielded probably would've been another 40%. At least 60% of this damage was sword attacks in 2 swings on a stat split character.

This is because purple armour jsut gives so much str.

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I guess so. That just seems kinda crazy. Dont really wanna play a game where someone can do so much damage to me by just being next to me. Will see since this is last day of beta if that ends up getting nerfed at all on next time the games available. I have a hard time believing it wont though.

Honestly the only argument in this to me is that dk shouldn't have such high strength. He chunks you for nearly half your hp in one hit at the end and at the start chunks through your sheild and nearly 20% of your hp which unshielded probably would've been another 40%. At least 60% of this damage was sword attacks on a stat split character.

My rogue though takes his whole health bar in just 4 seconds with only aura. Is that normal?

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Honestly the only argument in this to me is that dk shouldn't have such high strength. He chunks you for nearly half your hp in one hit at the end and at the start chunks through your sheild and nearly 20% of your hp which unshielded probably would've been another 40%. At least 60% of this damage was sword attacks on a stat split character.

My rogue though takes his whole health bar in just 4 seconds with only aura. Is that normal?

I mean i can only assume that was desync hits or your rogue got hit by something else because we can see on your own screen that you're not taking 150dps of shroud, and a rogue at level 20 in blue gear probably has somewhere in the region of 500-650 hp. It wouldn't do 30 dps to a sm then 150 to a rogue.

EDIT the rogue does seem to take a very nasty power attack hit to the back right at the start of the fight and idk what happened before you got to the dk but he has a whole team chasing him. I'm guessing he never knew that guy chunked him for what'll be about 60% hp based on the damage done to you right at the gate.

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My rogue though takes his whole health bar in just 4 seconds with only aura. Is that normal?

I mean i can only assume that was desync hits or your rogue got hit by something else because we can see on your own screen that you're not taking 150dps of shroud, and a rogue at level 20 in blue gear probably has somewhere in the region of 500-650 hp. It wouldn't do 30 dps to a sm then 150 to a rogue.

I mean theres no desync his health is consistently ticking down. Im buddies with him he never got hit by a melee its only aura damage he got pulled by grab and DK tried to charge that heavy on my rogue but he turns the corner in time. He never got hit I know him so he told me. If he got hit by that DKs sword he would have been insanely chunked and DK is in front the entire time the guys behind him couldnt have hit him.

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I mean i can only assume that was desync hits or your rogue got hit by something else because we can see on your own screen that you're not taking 150dps of shroud, and a rogue at level 20 in blue gear probably has somewhere in the region of 500-650 hp. It wouldn't do 30 dps to a sm then 150 to a rogue.

I mean theres no desync his health is consistently ticking down. Im buddies with him he never got hit by a melee its only aura damage he got pulled by grab and DK tried to charge that heavy on my rogue but he turns the corner in time. He never got hit I know him so he told me. If he got hit by that DKs sword he would have been insanely chunked and DK is in front the entire time the guys behind him couldnt have hit him.

If you look at the start of that fight, your rogue definitely takes a massive power attack hit to the back at that gate at 0:06. And based on the damage to you being somewhere around 30-40% on a normal attack and him having less hp than SM I'm guessing he took around 3/4 of damage or maybe more right there.

[ItsJ-]

Im gonna assume thats cheating. Its harder to tell with me since i do get hit twice but my rogue doesnt get smacked at all. Unless this death knight is somehow min maxed to the extreme with just perfect purple loot.

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I mean theres no desync his health is consistently ticking down. Im buddies with him he never got hit by a melee its only aura damage he got pulled by grab and DK tried to charge that heavy on my rogue but he turns the corner in time. He never got hit I know him so he told me. If he got hit by that DKs sword he would have been insanely chunked and DK is in front the entire time the guys behind him couldnt have hit him.

If you look at the start of that fight, your rogue definitely takes a massive power attack hit to the back at that gate at 0:06. And based on the damage to you being somewhere around 30-40% on a normal attack and him having less hp than SM I'm guessing he took around 3/4 of damage or maybe more right there.

I know the video doesnt have audio that i uploaded but in the vid i have there is no melee sound. He grabs him with his ability at the start and the rest is only aura damage. Audio has no melee smacks on my rogue at all. He grabbed and charged a heavy but misses it

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Im gonna assume thats cheating. Its harder to tell with me since i do get hit twice but my rogue doesnt get smacked at all. Unless this death knight is somehow min maxed to the extreme with just perfect purple loot.

It is actually very easy to min max anyone with heavy armour, even dk, with jsut purple armour because more than half the pieces give +6 str added to 40ish base and then you can get +8 on the random rolls,

At minimum you're walking around with 65str + 40% damage and with a couple of random rolls you can be well into the 80s with +60% phys damage. If you were to min max you could easily take any heavy armour class into 90s str with massive +phys

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Im gonna assume thats cheating. Its harder to tell with me since i do get hit twice but my rogue doesnt get smacked at all. Unless this death knight is somehow min maxed to the extreme with just perfect purple loot.

It is actually very easy to min max anyone with heavy armour, even dk, with jsut purple armour because more than half the pieces give +6 str added to 41 base and then you can get +8 on the random rolls,

At minimum you're walking around with 65str + 30% damage and with a couple of random rolls you can be well into the 80s with +60% phys damage

I havent gone to deep into the end loot. I just feel bad for my rogue considering that there is legit nothing he could have done at all. I had some more options but his whole health bar is just gone to grab than aura. I really dont understand why thats a thing.

Thats all i gotta really say for that. Guess will see if devs change it at all next play test or launch

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idk it seems to me more like your rogue got chunked by that power attack and the sync was funny so it never made a sound rather than the aura did 150dps to him while being pretty standard for you. Especially when we see you take a normal attack for probably 35% health and think that yours is slightly higher than a rogue. Power attack that we see would likely deal 70+% to him and with a grab for around 100 you'd expect aura to kill him by the time he makes it down that corridor if everything checked out.

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idk it seems to me more like your rogue got chunked by that power attack and the sync was funny so it never made a sound rather than the aura did 150dps to him while being pretty standard for you. Especially when we see you take a normal attack for probably 35% health and think that yours is slightly higher than a rogue. Power attack that we see would likely deal 70+% to him.

Im sorry but thats not even possible? His hp is slowly ticking down the entire time? If that heavy hit him he would have been dead you can see it? Like its clearly in the video my rogue gets 80% damage from aura. hes grabbed than only aura damage consistently ticking him. Its in the video plain to see.

No heavy attack hits him his health is slowly ticking down the entire 4 seconds. There is no desync here that is all aura damage after being grabbed only full stop. He could be cheating or it could just be broken. But lets not start conflating or conspiracy theorizing this. Its in the video plain to see that's all aura damage.

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idk it seems to me more like your rogue got chunked by that power attack and the sync was funny so it never made a sound rather than the aura did 150dps to him while being pretty standard for you. Especially when we see you take a normal attack for probably 35% health and think that yours is slightly higher than a rogue. Power attack that we see would likely deal 70+% to him.

Im sorry but thats not even possible? His hp is slowly ticking down the entire time? If that heavy hit him he would have been dead you can see it? Like its clearly in the video my rogue gets 80% damage from aura. hes grabbed than only aura damage consistently ticking him. Its in the video

mb you're right on that, wasn't looking at the rogue hp. he doesn't get hit he's just already near dead by that point, but that does mean we can see how much damage rogue is taking now and based on that grab dealing about 20% of his hp at the start, which should be about 100-120 damage we can probably say rogue had about 500-550 hp and probably had somewhere around 450-480 left, to see how much damage the aura does assuming no one else in that party got a hit on him, if that's fair to you?

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Im sorry but thats not even possible? His hp is slowly ticking down the entire time? If that heavy hit him he would have been dead you can see it? Like its clearly in the video my rogue gets 80% damage from aura. hes grabbed than only aura damage consistently ticking him. Its in the video

mb you're right on that, wasn't looking at the rogue hp. he doesn't get hit he's just already near dead by that point, but that does mean we can see how much damage rogue is taking now and based on that grab dealing about 20% of his hp at the start, which should be about 100-120 damage we can probably say rogue had about 500-600 hp and probably had somewhere around 450-480 left, to see how much damage the aura does, if that's fair to you?

Yeah his grab does about 20% and the rest is aura for 80% because hes full running away and dodges that heavy. If that heavy connected my rogue is dead there. Thats gotta be cheating right? 80% aura damage is not possible is it?

Like this in my opinon is a case of imbalanced or cheating. My teammate being rogue (fastest class) is full retreat running away this entire time after being grabbed. Like he had no options or counterplay here. Like said before hes full blue gear and level 20 as rogue.

I really love this game just fyi, and most my games go pretty well. I often 1v3 and i would say im deff above average in the game. This is the first time ive been full stop not okay with the game balance. Yes i maybe could have done some things better this fight, but i don't have much time to react and that aura is just doing insane damage to me. If you watch this clip aswell i cant turn around and run because when i parry this death knight i parry his heavy attack. If i turn around here and run im dead.

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mb you're right on that, wasn't looking at the rogue hp. he doesn't get hit he's just already near dead by that point, but that does mean we can see how much damage rogue is taking now and based on that grab dealing about 20% of his hp at the start, which should be about 100-120 damage we can probably say rogue had about 500-600 hp and probably had somewhere around 450-480 left, to see how much damage the aura does, if that's fair to you?

Yeah his grab does about 20% and the rest is aura for 80% because hes full running away and dodges that heavy. If that heavy connected my rogue is dead there. Thats gotta be cheating right? 80% aura damage is not possible is it?

Like this in my opinon is a case of imbalanced or cheating. My teammate being rogue (fastest class) is full retreat running away this entire time after being grabbed. Like he had no options or counterplay here.

rogue spends around 10 seconds of the fight in aura which should be about 310 damage of aura, plus about 120 from grab, and I'd assume based on the hp lost from grab he had in the region of 500 hp and so I'm guessing someone in the team was responsible for the remaining 70 or so he would've had or something happened with sync. It doesn't seem like cheating and that would be close to the minimum hp a rogue can possibly have so I'm guessing your rogue takes no extra stam, which is kinda needed if you wanna be a melee rogue.

The counterplay would've been petrifying the dude ig, but no stam rogues and rogues in general will always suffer in melee range of a dk

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Yeah his grab does about 20% and the rest is aura for 80% because hes full running away and dodges that heavy. If that heavy connected my rogue is dead there. Thats gotta be cheating right? 80% aura damage is not possible is it?

Like this in my opinon is a case of imbalanced or cheating. My teammate being rogue (fastest class) is full retreat running away this entire time after being grabbed. Like he had no options or counterplay here.

rogue spends around 10 seconds of the fight in aura which should be about 310 damage of aura, plus about 120 from grab, and I'd assume based on the hp lost from grab he had 500 hp and so I'm guessing someone in the team was responsible for the remaining 70 or so he would've had or something happened with sync. It doesn't seem like cheating and that would be close to the minimum hp a rogue can possibly have so I'm guessing your rogue takes no extra stam, which is kinda needed if you wanna be a melee rogue.

The counterplay would've been petrifying the dude ig, but no stam rogues and rogues in general will always suffer in melee range of a dk

He only spent 4 seconds in aura?????? From the 2 second mark to the 6 second mark. Thats 4 seconds not 10?