Fantasy Version of Tarkov?...

[Xyyth]

This game seems like a fantasy version of Tarkov. Is this game going to be free to play with a cash shop OR pay and play without a cash shop? This will make or break the game. Also, there needs to be a way for solos to level up when they don't have a regular group available.

[Grimmsch]

Originally posted by Xyyth:

Also, there needs to be a way for solos to level up when they don't have a regular group available.

There is already a solo queue. I play solo all the time.

[Xyyth]

Originally posted by Grimmsch:

Originally posted by Xyyth:

Also, there needs to be a way for solos to level up when they don't have a regular group available.

There is already a solo queue. I play solo all the time.

But how do they manage old players ganking new players just getting started? Sounds like it could be a mess.

[Grimmsch]

Originally posted by Xyyth:

But how do they manage old players ganking new players just getting started? Sounds like it could be a mess.

The map is huge. It is rather easy to avoid other player.

[4rgi]

its not a fantasy tarkov its a cheap version from Dark & Darker

[Grimmsch]

Originally posted by 4rgi:

its not a fantasy tarkov its a cheap version from Dark & Darker

Cheap is debatable. It does several things better. Some worse.
And DaD is not an original. The spiritual predecessor is a chivalry mod from 2015. Than there was P3. Assets were bought on he Unreal marketplace. But it deserves credit for paving the way

[4rgi]

what does it better? graphics? ok but rest is worse

[Grimmsch]

Originally posted by 4rgi:

what does it better? graphics? ok but rest is worse

Level design is way above all that DaD has to offer. Not even talking about the forced map rotation.

QoL - that DaD doesn't even have. You still have to watch text scroll in real time to buy things as if you were stuck in the 90s.

Netcode is better - DaD has ducktaped their codebase which sdf even admits. They are working on it but for now it just doesn't run well.

Parry & Thrust instead of just footwork as if you are playing a turn based game.
I have to admit combat still feels a little bit more satisfying and the sound is also better in DaD. To be fair both games suck combat wise. I'd love Chivalry-esque combat.

I give you that - class design is much better over there.

[LittleEtherKitty]

Originally posted by Grimmsch:

Originally posted by 4rgi:

its not a fantasy tarkov its a cheap version from Dark & Darker

Cheap is debatable. It does several things better. Some worse.
And DaD is not an original. The spiritual predecessor is a chivalry mod from 2015. Than there was P3. Assets were bought on he Unreal marketplace. But it deserves credit for paving the way

To be fair, you get it free, currently, so it's technically the cheap version. XP

[LittleEtherKitty]

Originally posted by Grimmsch:

Originally posted by 4rgi:

what does it better? graphics? ok but rest is worse

Level design is way above all that DaD has to offer. Not even talking about the forced map rotation.

QoL - that DaD doesn't even have. You still have to watch text scroll in real time to buy things as if you were stuck in the 90s.

Netcode is better - DaD has ducktaped their codebase which sdf even admits. They are working on it but for now it just doesn't run well.

Parry & Thrust instead of just footwork as if you are playing a turn based game.
I have to admit combat still feels a little bit more satisfying and the sound is also better in DaD. To be fair both games suck combat wise. I'd love Chivalry-esque combat.

I give you that - class design is much better over there.

With this, I'd disagree that level design is better. DaD doesn't have any real chance of getting trapped in a guaranteed death spot, but DB does.

QoL can be given to DB but not to an extreme amount.

Netcode, I can't really comment on, as I've not enough experience with DB.

I can give the parry and thrust to DB but dodging is better, in DaD. AI enemy engagement I'd give to DaD, as well, as they feel better to fight. I'd say this is more of a tie.

Class design is definitely better built, though starting gear would be given to DB.

All in all, I'd rate them pretty near each other, but I'd give it to DaD, just because I enjoy the art style and atmosphere better.