They used ai upscaling

[ThatoneSpaceboyboi]

This sucks the ai upscaling has been bluring textures which makes them look worse which sucks

[Ziflock]

Any proof, at all?

[Dark]

Originally posted by Ziflock:

Any proof, at all?

Here, this guy goes over how you can see artifacting on some of the textures, meaning that details are getting lost in the upscaling:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryl63fGIIKk

[✪ GIGO]

tbh this is the least of my concerns... You can just use modded textures.

[Arnie Rimsy BSc.SSc.]

Minor issue alert

[ThatoneSpaceboyboi]

Yeah it’s not that big of deal since you can use modded textures but still think it sucks

[Snickerbockers]

as long as there is some human oversight/review to make sure the AI doesn't ♥♥♥♥ up i don't mind too much. AI upscaling tends to have issues with sometimes not understanding what the image represents and making bizarre changes, but plenty of remasters have had terrible texture replacements without using AI. Whenever you replace the original textures with newer ones there's going to be a chance you make it worse, or fail to appreciate the appeal of the original, etc.

BTW if you've ever used DLSS before then you're literally letting an AI upscale the entire screen, but it seems to be very well-received.

Hopefully they at least include the option to use the original textures, more rereleases need to do that. One of my favorite parts of Halo MCC is that in the first game you can switch between the original XBox graphics and the remade graphics from the 360 port (sadly they don't also let you do this in halo 2).

[Litwick]

Originally posted by csand:

They used AI upscaling, shameful display!

*fires up game with dlss*

They used AI upscaling, shameful display!

*fires up game with AI bots*

[Rogue]

What do you think AI was made for? It's a tool, a tool to be used.

If they did it all by hand they would have to charge us 60 dollars.

[Codian]

How many of you well informed people preordered this game and if you did, based on what research?

To be honest, if you preordered this game and have issues which would become glaringly obvious with some minor research, you have no right to moan and deserves to be fleeced of all your money to these con artists

[Kitai]

just like the whole palworld debarkle theres no proof its ai upscaled.
also whats there to complain when every single developer uses ai for singleplayer and ai multiplayer? i dont see the issue.

remember when you uncompress textures its clear that theres massive issues with artifecting and whatnot.

[Kitai]

Originally posted by gamer:

Originally posted by Codian:

How many of you well informed people preordered this game and if you did, based on what research?

As you can see, I haven't. I would only pre-order if there's an extensive demo like what Next Fest had for games like Homeworld and Outcast 2. Most games, of course, don't do this anymore.

Originally posted by Kitai:

just like the whole palworld debarkle theres no proof its ai upscaled.
also whats there to complain when every single developer uses ai for singleplayer and ai multiplayer? i dont see the issue.

Speaking of the Narcissist's Prayer, you went so far you went to the 1st and 2nd verse in the same post.

whats there to be narcissist about? im just stating an obvious thing that is not an issue?

[Kitai]

Originally posted by gamer:

Originally posted by Kitai:

whats there to be narcissist about? im just stating an obvious thing that is not an issue?

Even if someone were to give you clear evidence of AI (which is top of the thread by the way), all you would do is continue to downplay it until it gets to the point where it's just "that's your problem."

Of course, you don't understand the nuance that AI isn't the problem but the fact it isn't dlsclosed as such or the developer acts as though humans worked on the textures. The issue to you is black and white.

thats because theres no solid evidence to anything people sprew online,
until the game actually launches and people datamine it no one can claim anything otherwise,

claiming something without proof is narcissistic just saying

[PeaceThroughPower]

Originally posted by gamer:

This entire thread can be summed up as:

"They used AI textures in this game!"
"No they didn't, what's your proof!?"
>proof presented
"Well, it's not a big deal anyway!"

lmao, fanboys.

[Kitai]

Originally posted by gamer:

Originally posted by Kitai:

thats because theres no solid evidence to anything people sprew online

This is what I'm talking about. The proof is above and you completely disregarded that proof The argument is either ignored or downplayed in the style of the Narcissist's Prayer. You either don't understand the issue or are playing ignorant to it, then you end the post with "no you" by trying to say "no, YOU'RE the narcissist!" as if that is the remote argument here.

I only just noticed earlier you made statements comparing AI textures to AI bots in single and multiplayer, which is another sign you don't actually understand the issue here. Why should I continue to engage with you when I have a solid idea of what your next response is?

again theres no solid proof,
people need to datamine the files in order to get the proof of the usage of ai,

its like the morons who are saying xdefiant is releasing by the 31st of this month when in reality theres no release date and those same people think a game with no release date is delayed when thats not how it works.

gotta get actual proof before spitting lies and nonsense online,

as you can tell i dont trust anything anyone says online,
until the stuff has been datamined.

and again its just like the whole ai debarkle with palworlds people claimed ai and it turns out the game didnt have ai usage.

[Kitai]

Originally posted by gamer:

I'm going to dissect your post piece by piece.

Originally posted by Kitai:

again theres no solid proof,
people need to datamine the files in order to get the proof of the usage of ai,

The AI is pretty easy to understand if you have any remote understanding of how AI generation works. Aspyr worked on the Tomb Raider remasters which themselves utilized AI and are well-documented on those forums. Besides, with your responses? You would say the exact same thing if any "datamined" evidence came out of AI use, because that would be the exact same as what people are spreading around now.

Originally posted by Kitai:

its like the morons who are saying xdefiant is releasing by the 31st of this month when in reality theres no release date and those same people think a game with no release date is delayed when thats not how it works.

This is completely irrelevant and has nothing to do with AI.

Originally posted by Kitai:

gotta get actual proof before spitting lies and nonsense online

AI use is already documented and you have chosen to ignore the evidence and talk in circles, now to the point where you're talking about wholly unrelated subjects as if they pertain to the subject at hand.

Originally posted by Kitai:

as you can tell i dont trust anything anyone says online,
until the stuff has been datamined.

Speaking of talking in circles, you're already doing it here.

You are a waste of my time. You do not understand the issue, have no interest in discussing it, and will downplay or ignore all evidence like a child covering his ears going "LALALA" in a classroom. I'm going to block you, and you'll respond with "I WON" or some variation of this because that is the level of intelligence I am dealing with.

no one won anything and most of what i said could also apply to everything every morons wants to believe in,

like xdefiant people are making up excuses to bash a game in development
like palworld people made up excuses to hate the game, by spitting the ai nonsense,

the morons who also complaining about the ai bs also tried to say im wrong about how big the classic collection is,
when in reality i was correct about not trusting the xbox download size,
since on playstation the game was 30gigs,

thats why you dont trust anything you read and see online or anything coming from the xbox side of things,

moral is its a actual wait and see moment, thats all im saying,

also aspyr ported the guitar hero 3 and world tour games,
and no im not defending aspyr, but im still waiting for dataminers to actually show proof,

claiming something without actually showing any proof of it isnt proof at all, its just speculations,

also the tomb raider remasters are not the greatest nor the best versions to play anyways.
best ones to play will always be the ps1 version.