Am I the a*sehole for banning the Stuka and Wurfgerät?

[Tklama]

Time after time, game after game, whatever side I am on, those things vaporise ANYTHING they aim at. Saw a SuperPershing taken out in one volley, and it wasn´t even a direct hit. Medium tanks seem to die 80 percent of the time at the very first volley as well. Infantry vaporises even if they are in foxholes 100 meters from the point of impact.

I though the Calliope was OP, but those things are on a completely different level. AND ARE EVEN CHEAPER LIKE WTF.
How do you even stop the Veteranen faction from dominating a random public game?

All they have to do is not to lose the game by the point it comes out. Have a regular Germany get a vet tiger and what do the allies do then? Wait 30 minutes for the 203 (and spend 10SP mind you) and PRAY that the one shell you will have time to fire at the Stuka will land somewhere close by?

The same goes for all other artillery - the Stuka fires so fast you will hardly have the time to fire more than one shell at it before it zoomes away.

So yeah ♥♥♥♥ them, I will since ban them in games I host since I think they break the game, no matter what names I get called by random russians and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s.
The new faction still has a lot of other questionable units that they are free to use.

And no, the 203 is not "the same thing" it costs a ton of SP, fires SLOW and is EXTREMELY INACCURATE. If it were 4 SP then maybe we could compare them....

[Liam]

The Stuka and Wurfgerat were both banned in the "pro" 3v3 League Competition, so I think you made a good decision

[Tony]

Frst of all i like when see superpershing get destroy by stuka cuz that tank didnt see combat in ww2 like centurim..Yes kill all those post war tanks 1950-1960 with stuka..Cant wait for Gates of Hell tired of this post war tanks

[Tklama]

Originally posted by Pz.Abt.505:

Frst of all i like when see superpershing get destroy by stuka cuz that tank didnt see combat in ww2 like centurim..Yes kill all those post war tanks 1950-1960 with stuka..Cant wait for Gates of Hell tired of this post war tanks

I would be okay with its performance if it were priced correctly. It is a game-changing unit (you know, like a Tiger II), and its cost should reflect it (+-2000MP). That way you can only blame yourself for letting the enemy bank for it.
But judging by your incomprehensible babbling you most likely don´t care about valid arguments. I can guess you only play the Veteranen faction?

As it stands, Veteranen have no problem banking the 1250 MP necessary (the same as Katyusha for crying out loud. THE KATYUSHA), especially since they can spam out the amazing Strafbattailon to make up for the banked MP.
Hell, the Wurfgerät is even worse, since there is no way to prevent it and IT ONLY COSTS 6 SP.

[Tony]

Vaild arguments!?Haveing post war tanks like superpershing and centurim that tanks soo action in 1950 - 1960 in game set in ww2 era and talknig abaut balance LOOL...I was playing with OV yes but regular germany more fun for me..You wanna bank for superpershing that tank only 1 build and never see action till 1950 in video game set up in ww2 era and you think you are soo good..And 1 more thing YES arty kill tanks in ww2 ..♥♥♥♥ them up with stuka hehe

[Tklama]

Originally posted by Pz.Abt.505:

Vaild arguments!?Haveing post war tanks like superpershing and centurim that tanks soo action in 1950 - 1960 in game set in ww2 era and talknig abaut balance LOOL...I was playing with OV yes but regular germany more fun for me..You wanna bank for superpershing that tank only 1 build and never see action till 1950 in video game set up in ww2 era and you think you are soo good..And 1 more thing YES arty kill tanks in ww2 ..♥♥♥♥ them up with stuka hehe

Game balance seems to be a foreign concept to you. If you removed all OOTF units than you might as well delete the Allies since they would not be able to combat German armour.
Might as well delete Japan as well, since half of their units are prototypes that didnt see service.

Or you know what might be fun? If you want to be so realistic we might as well balance out the superior german designs by the Allies´ industrial capability.

Approx 49.000 Shermans were built, while only 1347 Tigers were built.
According to your logic a Sherman should then cost 37 times less MP than the Tiger. So if the Tiger is 1200 MP, the Sherman should be 33MP. I might even like your idea of game balance after all.

If you want realism and accuracy go visit your local recruiting centre.

[Tony]

Originally posted by Tklama:

Originally posted by Pz.Abt.505:

Vaild arguments!?Haveing post war tanks like superpershing and centurim that tanks soo action in 1950 - 1960 in game set in ww2 era and talknig abaut balance LOOL...I was playing with OV yes but regular germany more fun for me..You wanna bank for superpershing that tank only 1 build and never see action till 1950 in video game set up in ww2 era and you think you are soo good..And 1 more thing YES arty kill tanks in ww2 ..♥♥♥♥ them up with stuka hehe

Game balance seems to be a foreign concept to you. If you removed all OOTF units than you might as well delete the Allies since they would not be able to combat German armour.
Might as well delete Japan as well, since half of their units are prototypes that didnt see service.

Or you know what might be fun? If you want to be so realistic we might as well balance out the superior german designs by the Allies´ industrial capability.

Approx 49.000 Shermans were built, while only 1347 Tigers were built.
According to your logic a Sherman should then cost 37 times less MP than the Tiger. So if the Tiger is 1200 MP, the Sherman should be 33MP. I might even like your idea of game balance after all.

If you want realism and accuracy go visit your local recruiting centre.

Yes i agree allied spam vs axis little but good..That will be epic but this game is allied propaganda like 99% ww2 games..But cant wait for Gates of Hell they devs dont care abaut balance only history correct soo many allied players will cry me a river when that game start hehe

[Liam]

Originally posted by Pz.Abt.505:

Frst of all i like when see superpershing get destroy by stuka cuz that tank didnt see combat in ww2 like centurim..Yes kill all those post war tanks 1950-1960 with stuka..Cant wait for Gates of Hell tired of this post war tanks

The Super Pershing did see combat 3 days before the end of the war, and as far as I know, no pershings were being used past 1952

[Tony]

Originally posted by ewt.Liam:

Originally posted by Pz.Abt.505:

Frst of all i like when see superpershing get destroy by stuka cuz that tank didnt see combat in ww2 like centurim..Yes kill all those post war tanks 1950-1960 with stuka..Cant wait for Gates of Hell tired of this post war tanks

The Super Pershing did see combat 3 days before the end of the war, and as far as I know, no pershings were being used past 1952

LoL superpershing never see action in ww2 your information is wrong..

[Tony]

And i forget say pershing was use in korea war soo you are wrong mate

[Liam]

Originally posted by Pz.Abt.505:

Originally posted by ewt.Liam:

The Super Pershing did see combat 3 days before the end of the war, and as far as I know, no pershings were being used past 1952

LoL superpershing never see action in ww2 your information is wrong..

The Super Pershing saw combat in WW2.
Source: http://www.3ad.com/history/wwll/feature.pages/super.pershing.1.htm

The Pershing was used in the Korean war, but was replaced around 1952 in favour of the Patton tanks, so your date of 1960 is highly exaggerated.

u should learn ur history m8

[Tony]

Originally posted by ewt.Liam:

Originally posted by Pz.Abt.505:

LoL superpershing never see action in ww2 your information is wrong..

The Super Pershing saw combat in WW2.
Source: http://www.3ad.com/history/wwll/feature.pages/super.pershing.1.htm

The Pershing was used in the Korean war, but was replaced around 1952 in favour of the Patton tanks, so your date of 1960 is highly exaggerated.

u should learn ur history m8

Ok sorry my bad i belive you 1 superpershing is build and come when Hitler shot him self and when war is over..Why not then Germany have Maus tank lool in 10 SP..But centurin tank never see combat for sure he come in production in 1946..You say me learn history but i am not interest in allied post war tanks that never be or 1 be in war and come when its over..

[Liam]

Originally posted by Pz.Abt.505:

Originally posted by ewt.Liam:

The Super Pershing saw combat in WW2.
Source: http://www.3ad.com/history/wwll/feature.pages/super.pershing.1.htm

The Pershing was used in the Korean war, but was replaced around 1952 in favour of the Patton tanks, so your date of 1960 is highly exaggerated.

u should learn ur history m8

Ok sorry my bad i belive you 1 superpershing is build and come when Hitler shot him self and when war is over..Why not then Germany have Maus tank lool in 10 SP..But centurin tank never see combat for sure he come in production in 1946..You say me learn history but i am not interest in allied post war tanks that never be or 1 be in war and come when its over..

No, that logic doesn't check out because the Maus never saw combat. You are right about the Centurion, but that is just one case out of 1000 where things are not accurate in this game in favor of balance, which is absolutely necessary.

[Romich]

Originally posted by Pz.Abt.505:

Vaild arguments!?Haveing post war tanks like superpershing and centurim that tanks soo action in 1950 - 1960 in game set in ww2 era and talknig abaut balance LOOL...I was playing with OV yes but regular germany more fun for me..You wanna bank for superpershing that tank only 1 build and never see action till 1950 in video game set up in ww2 era and you think you are soo good..And 1 more thing YES arty kill tanks in ww2 ..♥♥♥♥ them up with stuka hehe

Centurion is worse than a vet tiger though, as 17 pounder doesnt have its real life pen values, just like us 90mm and ussr 122mm, for the sake of balance.

Originally posted by Tklama:

Time after time, game after game, whatever side I am on, those things vaporise ANYTHING they aim at. Saw a SuperPershing taken out in one volley, and it wasn´t even a direct hit. Medium tanks seem to die 80 percent of the time at the very first volley as well. Infantry vaporises even if they are in foxholes 100 meters from the point of impact.

Better to just ban the ostfront completely, as it is a pay to win cashgrab that was made with low effort, lol their units dont even have text descriptions and a big chunk of its units is badly balanced.