This is why I don't buy live service games

[Insomniac]

This post isn't about why it failed or anything like that but this is a good example of why live service is a horrendous business model. No matter how good a live service does eventually it hits EoS and people blew their money and time on something they can't get back, luckily in this case people are getting refunds, but most of the time that's not the case.

We need to stop supporting this business model in general and start only buying games that contain an offline mode so at the very least when the servers die, you still have SOMETHING to play that you bought with your money. I'm on a permanent boycott of paid live service games, I may occasionally try a f2p, but outside of that, I'm out.

[Aerooooooo]

There's nothing really wrong with physical media, people are just too lazy. I see all these stories about content being pulled because companies can't agree on distribution, and it's like dude. what? Y'all really that incapable of packing DVDs and CDs in boxes that you're gonna just settle for that?

[Insomniac]

Originally posted by APerson:

There's nothing really wrong with physical media, people are just too lazy. I see all these stories about content being pulled because companies can't agree on distribution, and it's like dude. what? Y'all really that incapable of packing DVDs and CDs in boxes that you're gonna just settle for that?

I haven't paid for streaming services since they started being a thing, if I want a movie I'll order the bluray. If it doesn't have a physical copy I'll sail the seven seas. Games and music are the only digital media i continue to buy. Music I can get without DRM and in FLAC format, Gamers really should have chosen GOG when they were largely only DRM free.

[Aerooooooo]

Originally posted by Insomniac:

Originally posted by APerson:

There's nothing really wrong with physical media, people are just too lazy. I see all these stories about content being pulled because companies can't agree on distribution, and it's like dude. what? Y'all really that incapable of packing DVDs and CDs in boxes that you're gonna just settle for that?

I haven't paid for streaming services since they started being a thing, if I want a movie I'll order the bluray. If it doesn't have a physical copy I'll sail the seven seas. Games and music are the only digital media i continue to buy. Music I can get without DRM and in FLAC format, Gamers really should have chosen GOG when they were largely only DRM free.

Oh, I was just speaking generally, not specifically addressing you. Like you, I've never bothered with streaming services. I don't even bother pirating, either.

if it ain't released with a physical copy, my interest plummets. I don't mind GOG, though. They're digital done right. But it's only a matter of time before they change and decline, too.

[Insomniac]

Originally posted by APerson:

Originally posted by Insomniac:

I haven't paid for streaming services since they started being a thing, if I want a movie I'll order the bluray. If it doesn't have a physical copy I'll sail the seven seas. Games and music are the only digital media i continue to buy. Music I can get without DRM and in FLAC format, Gamers really should have chosen GOG when they were largely only DRM free.

Oh, I was just speaking generally, not specifically addressing you. Like you, I've never bothered with streaming services. I don't even bother pirating, either.

if it ain't released with a physical copy, my interest plummets. I don't mind GOG, though. They're digital done right. But it's only a matter of time before they change and decline, too.

I regret giving Valve as much money as I have. I can't even use the offline function on Steam and support can't figure out why lol, I'm effectively locked to only ever playing my entire 3k+ Steam library while online.

[Aerooooooo]

Originally posted by Insomniac:

Originally posted by APerson:

Oh, I was just speaking generally, not specifically addressing you. Like you, I've never bothered with streaming services. I don't even bother pirating, either.

if it ain't released with a physical copy, my interest plummets. I don't mind GOG, though. They're digital done right. But it's only a matter of time before they change and decline, too.

I regret giving Valve as much money as I have. I can't even use the offline function on Steam and support can't figure out why lol, I'm effectively locked to only ever playing my entire 3k+ Steam library while online.

I can definitely sympathize, but at this point, I'll take what I can get and Steam hasn't been too bad for me, but I'm basically biding my time to see how Gabe's successors goof the floof after he passes away. I could very well be wrong, but judging by everything else to do with gaming, am I wrong to be skeptical?

[Insomniac]

Originally posted by APerson:

Originally posted by Insomniac:

I regret giving Valve as much money as I have. I can't even use the offline function on Steam and support can't figure out why lol, I'm effectively locked to only ever playing my entire 3k+ Steam library while online.

I can definitely sympathize, but at this point, I'll take what I can get and Steam hasn't been too bad for me, but I'm basically biding my time to see how Gabe's successors goof the floof after he passes away. I could very well be wrong, but judging by everything else to do with gaming, am I wrong to be skeptical?

Certainly not. If his ex-wife somehow takes the reins Steam is doomed. If he passes it down to someone on his hardware team or his son(?) maybe it could live on relatively unscathed. I am definitely skeptical though. If anyone ever takes the company public expect significant enshittification to begin almost immediately.