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Okay. You start.
Thanks for chiming in. I understand where you’re coming from, and I agree that "Concord" had its flaws—no game is perfect, and constructive criticism is always valuable. However, I think it’s important to differentiate between critiquing a game’s quality and dismissing it outright for broader reasons.
First off, while "Concord" might have been seen as an “Overwatch clone” to some, it also attempted to bring unique elements to the hero shooter genre. The fact that it didn’t hit the mark for everyone doesn’t necessarily mean it should be written off. Many games start with a mixed reception but find their footing over time or through community feedback.
Regarding the art and character design, I get that these aspects are subjective. What one player sees as innovative, another might find off-putting. However, it’s worth considering that innovation often involves risk, and not all risks will resonate with everyone.
The point I was trying to make is that "Concord" was part of a larger trend of games trying to address contemporary social issues and represent diverse voices. The conversation around this game seemed to get bogged down in whether it was “too woke” rather than focusing on its merits and potential for growth.
Criticism of a game’s design is fair, but it’s crucial to have discussions that look at the broader context of why certain themes and representations matter. It’s about balancing critique with understanding that new approaches in gaming can be valuable even if they don’t always succeed.
So, while we can certainly talk about the specifics of "Concord’s" design and gameplay, I think there’s also room for a discussion on how we engage with games that push boundaries, even when they don’t hit every mark.
What are your thoughts on finding a balance between critiquing game design and acknowledging the broader contributions a game might be making?
Best, [Your Username]
I appreciate your feedback, though I’m a bit puzzled by the “AI slop” comment. My intention was to engage in a meaningful discussion about why "Concord" and similar games are worth considering beyond their immediate reception.
While it’s completely valid to have different opinions on the game, reducing the conversation to just dismissive labels doesn’t help us understand or appreciate the broader issues at play. If there are specific aspects of the game or the discussion you disagree with, I’d be interested to hear your thoughts in more detail.
Engaging with different perspectives can lead to a richer dialogue, so I’m open to discussing any specific points you feel were missed or misrepresented.
Looking forward to your insights.
Best, [Your Username]
I totally understand where you're coming from, and I agree with a lot of your points. It’s really disappointing to see a game like "Concord," which aimed to push boundaries and explore new themes, get shut down partly because of the backlash it received. The term "woke" does seem to be used a lot these days as a catch-all to dismiss games or other media that don’t conform to traditional standards. It's frustrating to see that kind of discourse overshadow the potential of innovative projects.
I think you're right that the early criticism might have impacted the game's sales and longevity. It’s a shame because every game, even with its flaws, has the potential to contribute something valuable to the industry. It’s important to engage with games on their own terms and consider what they bring to the table, rather than writing them off due to a surface-level disagreement.
The conversation around inclusivity in games can definitely be more nuanced. Just because a game tries to be more inclusive doesn’t mean it’s perfect, but it doesn’t mean it deserves to be dismissed either. Supporting diverse and innovative projects can only benefit the industry as a whole, leading to more variety and richer experiences for everyone.
I hope this situation serves as a reminder for us to engage more thoughtfully with games and other media. Criticizing them is fine, but it should be done in a way that considers their full context and potential rather than reducing them to simplistic labels.
Looking forward to seeing how the discussion evolves!
Cheers, [Your Name]
Gaming is entertainment. An escape.
That you seem to think video games are more akin to lectures, or dogmatic social commentaries, is precisely why Concord is where it is right now.
Now go have ChatGPT do more of your thinking for you. Clearly you can't do it yourself.
Thanks for sharing your perspective. I get where you’re coming from—gaming is definitely about entertainment and providing an escape. It’s a core part of why so many of us love it. However, I think there’s room in the industry for games that also explore different themes and perspectives, alongside those that purely entertain.
The point I was trying to make isn’t that games should be lectures or social commentaries. Rather, it’s about recognizing that games can be both entertaining and thought-provoking. Just as some films and books tackle deeper themes while still being enjoyable, games can do the same. It’s not about forcing a message but about appreciating the diversity of experiences games can offer.
As for the comment about ChatGPT, I’m here to share my views and engage in discussion, not to rely on any one source for opinions. If you have specific points or criticisms about "Concord" or the discussion around it, I’d be glad to dive into those. It’s through such dialogues that we all get a better understanding of different perspectives.
Looking forward to hearing more from you.
Also TLDR
Ah, so it’s all my fault that “Concord” didn’t turn out as expected? If only I had known my opinions were so powerful in the game development world!
It’s amusing to see how some people can turn a discussion about a game’s impact into a personal indictment. The reality is that decisions on which games get greenlit are complex and involve many factors beyond just one person's viewpoint.
But hey, if it makes you feel better to pin the blame on me for “Concord’s” fate, I’ll take it as a compliment to my imaginary influence. Meanwhile, I’ll continue to engage in discussions with the hope that we can all appreciate the nuances and contributions of different games, even the ones that don’t quite hit the mark.
Strategy
His fast move speed can boost forward mini tanks like an Ice Golem in a push. At the same time, he can also function as a tank for lower hitpoint troops such as Goblins as he still has a fair amount of health. Most cheap swarms complement the Hog Rider well, as they are nearly as fast as him and usually force more than one card out of the opponent's hand.
The Hog Rider struggles with swarms, as they can damage him down and defeat him quickly while obstructing his path. Barbarians in particular can fully counter him without very strict timing on the defender's part, though be wary of spells.
A Hunter can kill the Hog Rider in 2 hits if placed right on top of it. However, if you place something in front of the Hog Rider, the Hunter's splash will damage the Hog Rider and hit the card in front of it more.
The Hog Rider in conjunction with the Freeze can surprise the opponent and allow the Hog Rider to deal much more damage than anticipated, especially if the opponent's go-to counter is a swarm, or swarms are their only effective counter to him. Skeletons and Bats will immediately be defeated by the spell, while Spear Goblins, Goblins, and Minions will be at low enough health to be defeated by a follow up Zap or Giant Snowball.
However, this strategy isn't very effective against buildings as the Hog Rider will take a while to destroy the building, giving the opponent ample time to articulate another counter.
Against non-swarm troops, it can deal a lot of damage during the freeze time, but this can allow the opponent to set up a massive counterpush. For this reason, players should either only go for a Hog Rider + Freeze when they have other units backing it up from a counterattack, or if the match is about to end and they need to deal as much damage as possible.
It is not a good idea to send in a Hog Rider simply to destroy a building, especially if it is the only building targeting unit available, as defeating Crown Towers becomes substantially more difficult. Spells or simply waiting out the lifetime of the building are more effective. The exception to this is an Elixir Collector placed in front of the King's Tower. If a Hog Rider placed at the bridge, he can destroy the Collector for a positive Elixir trade, though the damage from both Princess Towers will usually mean he does not survive to deal any damage to them. However, if the opponent sends in defending troops, it can be an opportunity to gain spell damage value.
In a deck with several low-cost cards, it might be worth it to simply send the Hog Rider against one building. These decks shuffle their card rotation quick enough, that they will arrive to their next Hog Rider before the next building arrives in the opponent's card rotation.
Long-ranged troops like Musketeer and Flying Machine can snipe those buildings, preserving some of the Hog Rider's health, possibly allowing it to get some Tower damage.
When there are buildings placed in the middle to counter the Hog Rider, understanding the placement of the Hog Rider and the type of building placed can help the Hog Rider to bypass certain buildings.
Passive buildings such as spawners and Elixir Collector have a larger hitbox than defensive buildings; which means that if a passive building was placed 3 tiles away from the river in the middle of the opponent's side, then it is impossible for the Hog Rider to bypass that placement as the Hog Rider will get pulled to that building.
Defensive buildings have a smaller hitbox than a passive building, which means if that if a defensive building was placed three tiles away from the river in the middle of the opponent's side, a Hog Rider placed at the very left or right side of the Arena may be able to bypass it due to its smaller hitbox.
If the player has a building already placed down in the center of the arena, and the opponent tries to bypass it with a Hog Rider at the edge of the arena, they can use certain air troops to push the Hog Rider towards the building as it jumps over the river, effectively denying the bypass attempt. They must be already hovering over the correct placement, as very quick reflexes are required to correctly perform this technique.
For Bats, Skeleton Dragons, and Minion Horde, they should be placed right in front of the Hog Rider as soon as it is deployed.
For Minions, Skeleton Barrel, Mega Minion, Flying Machine, Electro Dragon, Baby Dragon, Inferno Dragon, Balloon, and Lava Hound, stagger the above placement one tile to the right if the Hog Rider is placed on the left side of the arena, and vice versa.
They can also use ground troops to achieve the same result. Something like an Ice Golem deployed at the Hog Rider’s landing spot will obstruct his path and force him to go around the unit, which causes him to be closer to the building instead of the Crown Tower.
The Hog Rider can kite Very Fast non-building targeting troops due to his own Very Fast speed and building only targeting if he is placed on the fourth tile from the bridge, slightly into the opposite lane. He can also stall grounded units when placed right at the bridge. He will pull them towards him while deploying, and then be untargetable by them when he jumps over the bridge. After landing, he will pull them back. This can be useful when the player needs to deal damage in the same lane they are defending. It will also help separate troops behind a tank in a large push.
A Tornado placed on the second tile front of the player's King's Tower and staggered two tiles towards the Princess Tower will activate it without any damage dealt to the Princess Tower, helping them in defending future pushes. This can also be a method of mitigating all damage dealt to a Princess Tower, but doing this more than three times may result in the King's Tower's health being low enough to be targeted directly, opening up the possible threat of a back door three crown. A better alternative is to pull the Hog away from the Princess Tower into the attacking range of all three Crown Towers, which will negate all damage as long as none of them are already distracted
A very powerful combo is the Hog Rider, the Musketeer, and the Valkyrie, typically referred to as the Trifecta. The Musketeer will defend against most troops, while the Valkyrie can protect her and the Hog Rider from swarms or high damage units. The Hog Rider is used to deal damage to the tower.
This can be effectively countered by Lightning, one-shotting the Musketeer and severely damaging both the Valkyrie and Hog Rider. The Minion Horde is also effective, but the enemy can Zap them and the Musketeer will one-shot them all. Even if the Musketeer is defeated, the Hog Rider and Valkyrie will have enough time to severely damage the Tower.
The Hog Rider should be placed behind the Valkyrie to give it a boost so that it stays in front of the Hog Rider, protecting it.
A Hog Rider combined with a Goblin Barrel can be awkward for the opponent to defend against. Timing it so that the Hog Rider is tanking the tower shots for the Goblins is the most effective way to deal damage. However, a Barbarian Barrel can shut this down with minimal Tower damage for a positive Elixir trade, as long as the Goblin Barrel was placed directly on the Tower.
Pairing the Hog Rider with the Balloon can deal devastating damage. If executed properly, the Hog Rider will act as a tank while the Balloon threatens to deal massive damage. The Hog Rider can also destroy any buildings attempting to slow down the combo. However, this combo is very vulnerable to swarms and anti-air cards as neither of the troops target anything but buildings. Additionally, they are easy to separate, due to the disparity in move speeds. Alternatively, the Hog Rider and the Balloon can be played in different lanes to spread the opponent's defenses thin. However, a building or Tornado can bring them back together for an easier defense.
The Hog Rider can be paired with the Lumberjack as both a swarm bait and damage combo. It is a very fast combo with an extremely high damage output potential, so the enemy will likely try to counter it with a swarm. If this happens, use a spell like Arrows to render the opponent defenseless. If they manage to defeat the Lumberjack, the dropped Rage will make the Hog Rider even more dangerous than it normally is.
A fast and deadly combination is the Hog Rider and Mini P.E.K.K.A. combo. Both units are fast but the Mini P.E.K.K.A. does much more damage and does not attack only buildings so the Mini P.E.K.K.A. can deal with troops like the Executioner and Musketeer. However, this combo can be defeated with swarms like Skeleton Army, which will defeat both of them since neither of them can deal area damage. They are also unable to target air troops, so the Minion Horde can stop this easily.
A risky play is to deploy the Hog Rider at the bridge as soon as the match starts. If the opponent does not react fast enough, the Hog Rider will deal a significant amount of damage to the Princess Tower. This can also allow the player to quickly scout the opponent's deck if they happen to react to him fast enough