Why was this game not successful?

[DuraNext]

I've seen a lot of jokes about this game's failure and now I'm curious to know what happened (I admit I haven't played it).

I know there was a controversy with Helldivers 2 and the requirement to use a PSN account after launch and this game has had this requirement since the beginning. Could this be a reason for the failure?

Is the game bad? Is the game good but are there better alternatives on the market?

[CrabNicholson]

"Why did the game fail?"
"It's woke"
"No really why did it fail?"
"It's woke"
"Is it because the market is oversaturated?"
"It's woke"
"Was it badly advertised?"
"It's woke"
"Was it buggy on release?"
"It's woke"
"Was it the gameplay?"
"It's woke"
"OH WHY, WHY WON'T YOU TELL US WHY IT FAILED!"

What's that old expression again, ignoring the elephant in the room?

[DeerTrivia]

1. It's a hero shooter releasing eight years after Overwatch. At BEST it would carve out just a tiny piece of the pie for itself.

2. No marketing or hype. I didn't see a single Youtube ad, banner ad, press release, or anything leading up to release. Apparently there was even an open beta, but I never knew, and from reactions here, I'm guessing most people didn't know either. I had no idea it was coming out at all until it was suddenly on Steam's New Releases list.

3. $40 price point. I understand they did this so we wouldn't have to deal with a battlepass or microtransactions, but battlepasses and microtransactions work for a reason. There's a reason why Free to Play has been such a successful model. No one wants to drop $40 sight-unseen.

[Rilgar55]

It was a worst version of existing free games that asked for 40 dollars.

[Nuclear Kangaroo]

Origineel geplaatst door CrabNicholson:

"Why did the game fail?"
"It's woke"
"No really why did it fail?"
"It's woke"
"Is it because the market is oversaturated?"
"It's woke"
"Was it badly advertised?"
"It's woke"
"Was it buggy on release?"
"It's woke"
"Was it the gameplay?"
"It's woke"
"OH WHY, WHY WON'T YOU TELL US WHY IT FAILED!"

What's that old expression again, ignoring the elephant in the room?

ok, but how about the other 300 woke games that sold fine or great?

[Kate Hikes CEO of Racism]

It didn't have a bare foot blue girl with SSRI stare

[CrabNicholson]

Origineel geplaatst door Nuclear Kangaroo:

Origineel geplaatst door CrabNicholson:

"Why did the game fail?"
"It's woke"
"No really why did it fail?"
"It's woke"
"Is it because the market is oversaturated?"
"It's woke"
"Was it badly advertised?"
"It's woke"
"Was it buggy on release?"
"It's woke"
"Was it the gameplay?"
"It's woke"
"OH WHY, WHY WON'T YOU TELL US WHY IT FAILED!"

What's that old expression again, ignoring the elephant in the room?

ok, but how about the other 300 woke games that sold fine or great?

Every time I hear about the vaunted "successful woke games" it is always either a game from an existing IP that is riding on the coattails of its earlier popularity or something that most people wouldn't even consider woke. I have heard people refer to Elden Ring as woke. I had heard people refer to Hogwarts Legacy as woke despite the massive woke boycott AGAINST Rowling. People will tolerate a tiny amount of tokenism if the game is otherwise good, but any game that invented itself around woke politics, like Suicide Squad, Hyenas, Dustborn, Concord, etc. have all crashed and burned hard. This year especially there has been a massive dumpster pile of failed woke games, indicating that the public is becoming more aware and less tolerant of politically-charged attacks against them.

[Maria]

Origineel geplaatst door DuraN3rd:

I've seen a lot of jokes about this game's failure and now I'm curious to know what happened (I admit I haven't played it).

I know there was a controversy with Helldivers 2 and the requirement to use a PSN account after launch and this game has had this requirement since the beginning. Could this be a reason for the failure?

Is the game bad? Is the game good but are there better alternatives on the market?

As others said there are some games that are woke, like Baldurs Gate 3, that don't force you to be woke. They have that option if you want it, but its optional. There are also mods for BG3 that makes the characters more sexy/skimpy.

My view from a female perspective. A lot of devs like the concord ones, just listen to feminist girl gamers, who like to complain about sexualization of females in games they would not even play and are just making political statements. They completely ignore that most women actually prefer to look attractive in games and sexy. In the same way that in real life most women like to dress sexy at least sometimes. There is nothing wrong in liking to feel desired.

Only a minority want to look like men in bulky armor, claiming it makes them look badass. Most do not want to look like an olympic shot put thrower.

Noticed many concord fans are claiming those who don't like this game are racists and bigots, then go on to call them coomers who play TFD. Well I doubt many coomers actually play TFD, because there are adult games that actually have sex in them, rather than just hot characters in skimpy gear.

I think most men just like having some eye candy, there is nothing wrong with that. Many women also like to play as attractive male characters and they are never stigmatized unlike the men.

To claim that anyone against concord is a racist is ridiculous, especially when claiming they play a Korean game where they are playing as an Asian character. I doubt hardly anyone would have a problem with having a Black character added so long as they were actually relatable. Not the SJW butch woman with short hair and huge muscles who frightens male bodybuilders by her bulk.

[DuraNext]

Origineel geplaatst door CrabNicholson:

"Why did the game fail?"
"It's woke"
"No really why did it fail?"
"It's woke"
"Is it because the market is oversaturated?"
"It's woke"
"Was it badly advertised?"
"It's woke"
"Was it buggy on release?"
"It's woke"
"Was it the gameplay?"
"It's woke"
"OH WHY, WHY WON'T YOU TELL US WHY IT FAILED!"

What's that old expression again, ignoring the elephant in the room?

Dude, where did you get that from? This post only had a few messages until now. I asked, they said the game was woke, I (out of curiosity) asked if just the fact that the game was woke was enough to fail and they answered.

The topic remained unanswered for days, I don't even know why they resurrected it now.

[CrabNicholson]

Origineel geplaatst door DuraN3rd:

Origineel geplaatst door CrabNicholson:

"Why did the game fail?"
"It's woke"
"No really why did it fail?"
"It's woke"
"Is it because the market is oversaturated?"
"It's woke"
"Was it badly advertised?"
"It's woke"
"Was it buggy on release?"
"It's woke"
"Was it the gameplay?"
"It's woke"
"OH WHY, WHY WON'T YOU TELL US WHY IT FAILED!"

What's that old expression again, ignoring the elephant in the room?

Dude, where did you get that from? This post only had a few messages until now. I asked, they said the game was woke, I (out of curiosity) asked if just the fact that the game was woke was enough to fail and they answered.

The topic remained unanswered for days, I don't even know why they resurrected it now.

You're not following the massive amount of spin doctoring the gaming press is doing to cover for this game's flop, that is what I'm referring to in my post.

[DuraNext]

Origineel geplaatst door CrabNicholson:

Origineel geplaatst door DuraN3rd:

Dude, where did you get that from? This post only had a few messages until now. I asked, they said the game was woke, I (out of curiosity) asked if just the fact that the game was woke was enough to fail and they answered.

The topic remained unanswered for days, I don't even know why they resurrected it now.

You're not following the massive amount of spin doctoring the gaming press is doing to cover for this game's flop, that is what I'm referring to in my post.

Well, it's true that I don't follow the gaming press. I tend to find websites like IGN to be a waste of my time.

[DefectiveByDesign]

Origineel geplaatst door Bloody Moon:

This game didn't fail because of the required PlayStation account but for other reasons; if you want to find out, Google is your friend. However, the pointless complaints about needing a PSN account no longer hold up, because many titles here require a mandatory Ubisoft account, an EA account, and even an Epic Games account, yet I've never heard any complaints about those, strangely enough. The PC community is really too strange and ambiguous.

Disagree. A decade ago I wouldn't care, BUT I've had MULTIPLE storefronts go under losing entire libraries. Impulse, Desura, DotEmu, some others I don't remember. Not to mention Nintendo. I really despise every single current storefront. They ALWAYS forget your password when you have remember password checked, and have obnoxious authentication protocols. EA looking at you. I've not logged into EA for years, all their new games are not worth buying, they pulled the classic need for speed games for remakes. I've also SWITCHED TO LINUX, which nobody besides valve supports.

PS. Multiple storefronts will DELETE YOUR ACCOUNT from non use. There is a strong possibility EA has deleted my account with hundreds of games.

I only trust GOG and steam at this point. I will not be purchasing any game with a second storefront login. I don't own a single game from Epic, despite their free games and exclusive tactics. I only cared about Unreal from them, and lol gone.

I'm not buying any games on steam that require a second login. There are services out there that don't require signing up if you have a Google account. Just sign in with Google, but amazingly these games sold ON steam can't use your steam account.

GFWL went away. I don't trust PlayStation, Nintendo, or Xbox. I don't WANT to use PlayStation. It's not going to happen. Especially for a bad game. I don't use Epic for good games, let alone bad games. People complained about helldivers. Concord gets a pass? Lol. There was nothing good about this game, and zero reason to sign up. It's a second barrier on TOP of the barriers of bad game and pricing.

Steam needs to go back to not selling any games using a second store. Don't you love loading windows with 50 background stores that all magically forget your password and require authentication after a reboot? Hah. These things don't even work on Linux. I just load the OS and steam. Also, only steam supports anti cheat on Linux. These multiplayer games can forget getting my money, and I wouldn't buy garbage regardless.

As for this type of game, play overwatch. But this style is dying. I never liked it. I played quake 3 and team fortress 1. I don't like quake champions or team fortress 2. Was quake champions a success? I don't think it was. Gacha loot box enjoyers have moved over to Chinese games who offer better drops. I don't think this game style counts as a game, it's not about being a game, it's about drops, and you have to offer good drops. You can't sell a bad game with bad drops. It also means people won't MIGRATE, because all their loot is tied into another game. Overwatch/Genshin Impact players won't switch. Sunk cost. You've lost the chance to cash in. The only games that can sell are games that sell on their own. Wukong. You can't make bad sequels either. People will just replay the old Batman games, not the new garbage. The industry can't compete with itself by releasing worse products.

Maybe that's the whole mentality behind woke games, sell to the "modern audience". Except that's a fiction. Doesn't exist. These games also hit every single checkbox of bad games. Nobody will buy it.

[Jazzratoon]

Origineel geplaatst door DuraN3rd:

To be honest, the trailers seem to have interesting gameplay, but I'm not going to pay R$200 (Brazilian currency) for a Game as a Service. Honestly, I don't give a cent to GaaS.

$60 in the land of Oz.

[Pixie]

Origineel geplaatst door DuraN3rd:

I've seen a lot of jokes about this game's failure and now I'm curious to know what happened (I admit I haven't played it).

I know there was a controversy with Helldivers 2 and the requirement to use a PSN account after launch and this game has had this requirement since the beginning. Could this be a reason for the failure?

Is the game bad? Is the game good but are there better alternatives on the market?

Who do you think would play this game? The majority of gamers are white young men. Why do you think they would want to play as a black obese woman, in an action game? How far do you think they are able to suspend their disbelief? I'll tell you, not that far. And why should they be asked to in the first place?

And when it's not even a mistake, but an intentional insult, it seals the fate.

Couple that with the fact that the studio is basically unknown and the franchise is new, and you have no players.

Some games can inject some woke ideology because they are established franchises and people who don't pay attention to politics will buy them by the brand. But when you have no brand and exclusively try to push this ♥♥♥♥, not even play pretend, but ONLY have the most ridiculous woke characters, there's no chance.

[Prinny]

Origineel geplaatst door CrabNicholson:

"Why did the game fail?"
"It's woke"
"No really why did it fail?"
"It's woke"
"Is it because the market is oversaturated?"
"It's woke"
"Was it badly advertised?"
"It's woke"
"Was it buggy on release?"
"It's woke"
"Was it the gameplay?"
"It's woke"
"OH WHY, WHY WON'T YOU TELL US WHY IT FAILED!"

What's that old expression again, ignoring the elephant in the room?

They're going for the Arrowhead Studios approach.
"Why is everyone quitting?"
"The nerfs."
"We're sorry about whatever we did, so please forgive us?"
"Stop nerfing things."
"We're not sure what we did, so we're gonna take two months to figure it out."
"IT'S THE NERFS, STUPID!"

[DarkXessZ]

Origineel geplaatst door DuraN3rd:

I've seen a lot of jokes about this game's failure and now I'm curious to know what happened (I admit I haven't played it).

I know there was a controversy with Helldivers 2 and the requirement to use a PSN account after launch and this game has had this requirement since the beginning. Could this be a reason for the failure?

Is the game bad? Is the game good but are there better alternatives on the market?

Let me give you my thought why this game failed and what made it bad.
1. it didnt offer anything new that is already on the market. Their competitors were Overwatch, Paladin and TF2. BTW, Overwatch is free even though it fall off later.
2. There is no selling point in this game other than weirdly, badly design characters with pronouns like a garbage looking robot with pronouns. Basically this accelerate the death of this game even faster than it ever was.
3. Just a Overpriced, Knock off, Inferior version of Overwatch