opinion: why this game failed?

[PMVP]

i don´t own the game, never will, but looking at the discussion here and the number of really sad existences that flock here to celebrate the failure of someone else´s effort made me to react and bring my own opinion.

The game failed, but not because of the pronouns or "ugly characters" as the morons in this discussion claim over and over again. Nobody (at least nobody normal) cares about that stuff if the game is good - look at BG3, you can play as a female frog-person with male genitalia and voice and nobody points it out. Why? Because the game is awesome.

It failed because it is a TERRIBLE idea to come out with new generic hero shooter in 2024. How such big companies as AAA game developers and publishers keep making such dumb decisions is beyond me. Don´t they make market research before pouring hundreds of millions into a new project? what did they expect?

The market of hero shooters is already stale and oversaturated, everyone who wants to play this genre has it´s favorite game and won´t transfers over to a new game to start anew, there are no new players to attract to this genre and this game doesn´t bring anything new to the stale pond of hero shooters. the description of this game reads as every generic hero shooter that was ever created.

To make this game is on par to developing a new search engine to replace google, or a new stream subscription service to replace netflix. But making actually the same thing and hoping people will start to use it just because....of what?
Unless it is something vastly better and new and more convenient then the old thing, no one is going to switch over to it (and pay 40€ on top of it).

It was a good idea to publish this game 8 years ago, now it is just obsolete

P.S. for all the people celebrating failure of others as in this case - you are a bunch of sad losers. making fun of failures of other people is just pathethic

[Vashyo]

Originally posted by PMVP:

i don´t own the game, never will, but looking at the discussion here and the number of really sad existences that flock here to celebrate the failure of someone else´s effort made me to react and bring my own opinion.

The game failed, but not because of the pronouns or "ugly characters" as the morons in this discussion claim over and over again. Nobody (at least nobody normal) cares about that stuff if the game is good - look at BG3, you can play as a female frog-person with male genitalia and voice and nobody points it out. Why? Because the game is awesome.

It failed because it is a TERRIBLE idea to come out with new generic hero shooter in 2024. How such big companies as AAA game developers and publishers keep making such dumb decisions is beyond me. Don´t they make market research before pouring hundreds of millions into a new project? what did they expect?

The market of hero shooters is already stale and oversaturated, everyone who wants to play this genre has it´s favorite game and won´t transfers over to a new game to start anew, there are no new players to attract to this genre and this game doesn´t bring anything new to the stale pond of hero shooters. the description of this game reads as every generic hero shooter that was ever created.

To make this game is on par to developing a new search engine to replace google, or a new stream subscription service to replace netflix. But making actually the same thing and hoping people will start to use it just because....of what?
Unless it is something vastly better and new and more convenient then the old thing, no one is going to switch over to it (and pay 40€ on top of it).

It was a good idea to publish this game 8 years ago, now it is just obsolete

P.S. for all the people celebrating failure of others as in this case - you are a bunch of sad losers. making fun of failures of other people is just pathethic

BG3 you can also play as a dudebro like majority of people did (one dev raged about this), and you don't have to do any woke stuff in it as it lets you play as you want with choices.

This game just lets you only play as ugly gay stereotype characters so no buy.

You can always find ways to try to not make the reason simply the "wokeness" but seeing woke games just going this route over and over, it seems to me that it apparently does contribute to the downfall of games, no matter how much of people want to gnash their teeth and just ignore it.

[Kisama]

Rainbow kiddo tries to hide being hurt with vitriol, nobody cares - the steam thread. I'm sure said person would still be here defending the same ethics if it was the "other side" failing.
Oh no, no, their "ethics" would be thrown out faster than light.

You just mad rainbow ♥♥♥♥ is crashing and burning, as it should.

[|Pipe Dreams]

Rainbows....

[toefunkus]

Divisive visual style, poor marketing, and by-the-numbers gameplay. The game is simply unremarkable. If you took the pronouns out the same result would have happened.

[SmAuG]

A 'progressive' dumpster fire with zero originality

[Vashyo]

Originally posted by toefunkus:

Divisive visual style, poor marketing, and by-the-numbers gameplay. The game is simply unremarkable. If you took the pronouns out the same result would have happened.

I'd say its the DEI hires, they even tried to get some right wing devs in the company fired.

Hiring people based on things like skincolor or sexuality and ideology don't make good games. You hire the people with the talent instead even if they are 95% all straight white dudebros.

[Nohiro]

OVer saturated market of hero shooters that are all free to play, the game doesn't have any unique element to it (and it panders to a certain "modern audience")... so 39.99 for something that tries to surf on a guardian of the galaxy vibe but in a genre of game that doesn't fit it. (would have been better to have a heist open world game to be honest)

So it's a mix of bad decisions and bein out of touch with the current market... Sony already cancelled some of the service games they had planned ... So I guess this one was too far in the dev cycle to be canned or changed... That's the only reason I think of.

[Uncle Mikoolo]

I Copy/Pasted this text bellow that I wrote a couple of days ago in a different thread.

If it's true that Firewalk has been developing this game for 8 years then that means they had 8 years worth of time to tell their employees to play other hero shooters on company time. Like a hour long study session once or twice a week on their competitors games during the developement of Concord. They could have learned from failures such as Lawbreakers, Crucible and even Battleborn that was released at the same time as Overwatch but was more of a MOBA than a hero shooter. And to not repeat their mistakes. And learned why Overwatch is still thriving.

And held quarterly meetings regarding the status of the game market they aimed for, what they learned from the other games and their forums regarding complaints from their playerbases and what would be needed to changed in Concord during developement to make it successfull like adding some unique mechanic in the genre.

But it appears that they wore horseblinders during developement to not get distracted by this and ignore everything else on the market and continued to make their take on the perfect hero shooter but released it 8 years too late.

Because 8 years is a damn long time to make a game and a damn long time to not learn from others, adapt and evolve the game beyond what we're seeing today.

If they had aimed at making the game into a competetive leauge hit then they shouldn't have added a mechanic that punishes the players by preventing them from playing the same character the entire match.

This makes the game harder to strategize for competetive players because they are forced to learn and master more characters than just one.

Lets say that Player-X is a master at playing Character-1 then the opposite team would know this and adapt their strategy to handle that player. But with this mechanic they force the opposite team to study how Player-X plays multiple characters. It would increase the time required for making a competetive team of skilled players.

This is both a drawback and a strength when it comes to competetive players favourizing a character.

A sign that they did not look at how the hero shooter market shifted through the years is that they decided to release the game with a 40€/$ price tag and have microtransactions in the game albeit for cosmetics but still it's microtransactions.

I think if the devs really spent their time without wearing horseblinders while developing the game it could have been recieved much better and I would say a lot, not all, but a lot of gamers would have let the pronouns, SBI and all that slip by because the game would have been fresh and fun to play.

But the game as it is now is just a generic Overwatch clone without it's own identity.

[Seagrey]

The modern audience that the devs cater for didn't show up.

[ﾏｿｿｿ ₒ❤]

about 2 weeks before the game release whistleblowers inside the studio speak out about the toxic environment inside the studio and the current stage inside big gaming studios.

that convinced many people were on the fence to jump on the boycotting side.

[Bloodyhellmeow]

Originally posted by ﾏｿｿｿ　ₒ❤:

about 2 weeks before the game release whistleblowers inside the studio speak out about the toxic environment inside the studio and the current stage inside big gaming studios.

that convinced many people were on the fence to jump on the boycotting side.

Isn't this a common issue in big gaming corps?
Anyway, but I heard Microsoft has a goood developers' envriement

[Kisama]

Originally posted by ﾏｿｿｿ　ₒ❤:

about 2 weeks before the game release whistleblowers inside the studio speak out about the toxic environment inside the studio and the current stage inside big gaming studios.

that convinced many people were on the fence to jump on the boycotting side.

Whatever you say.

[Bloodyhellmeow]

Originally posted by Ding Chavez:

Originally posted by ﾏｿｿｿ　ₒ❤:

about 2 weeks before the game release whistleblowers inside the studio speak out about the toxic environment inside the studio and the current stage inside big gaming studios.

that convinced many people were on the fence to jump on the boycotting side.

Whatever you say.

yeah , but this game is a flop right?

[Nicodemous52]

There is no reason per se, it's a perfect storm of reasons. But it's hard to deny, the more they lead the marketing with the stuff "no normal person cares about" more and more, the industry is shuttering studio after studio.

I agree, pronouns is not what killed this game. But, I do think making sure to show us in the marketing everyone had them, even the robots. I do think that played no small part. If they were just in the game, and not used as a selling point, you are 100% correct. Nobody would really care they were their.

[Nicodemous52]

Originally posted by Ding Chavez:

Originally posted by ﾏｿｿｿ　ₒ❤:

about 2 weeks before the game release whistleblowers inside the studio speak out about the toxic environment inside the studio and the current stage inside big gaming studios.

that convinced many people were on the fence to jump on the boycotting side.

Whatever you say.

what he said is true. people did come out and say they worked under an LGBTQMNOP++ person that was tyrant and demanded to be called "professor"