New alpha dog mechanism is garbage as trash

[Ingens pēs]

Said you can stop this ♥♥♥♥ with puching his face
But it doesn't work
It will always bite my useless arm weapon when i PUNCHING RIGHT o HIS CHEEK
and it makes just 'run or get hit' gimmic

0 funny

[Vardi]

Here is another thread with some tips and strategies on how to deal with them
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2441700/discussions/0/561358509790265421/

[Chibbity]

You need to punch them on the back of the head, which yes, can be difficult to do when you are facing them head on; you should side step them a bit first.

[OneHellofaDragon]

Originally posted by Vardi:

Here is another thread with some tips and strategies on how to deal with them
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2441700/discussions/0/561358509790265421/

They feel especially bad when there's 5 of them on my screen. The windows to damage them are also incredibly brief. They're by far my least favourite enemy in the game. They also stubbornly refuse to bite the enemies thrown at them quite often. They need a more forgiving punish window, as it stands they're horrifically unfun. It used to be very clear how to play against them.

[Lykurgos]

I do find it harder to predict the behaviour state now but have also found that bashing their body whilst they are on attack approach is reliably effective at preventing them from locking on.

[Lykurgos]

Originally posted by Lykurgos:

I do find it harder to predict the behaviour state now but have also found that bashing their body whilst they are on attack approach is reliably effective at preventing them from locking on.

Citing myself to double-down on this now as a firm recommendation.

Do not try to bash the face.

Just hit the body

In particular, hit the body part below and left of the face.

I find this 100% reliably prevents them from locking on, and if you deliver a series of short and modestly rapid punches it effectively stun-locks them. This is of course for 1 Alphadog. If you find yourself surrounded by half a dozen and with a thumper above you then rejoice!

[A_pet_tick]

I miss the old aplha dogs. The patch notes say that the new ones are supposed to be less "drop what your doing to focus on this enemy", but ive just been doing that even more now. If theres more than one, i have to focus on them.
The old ones were a lot more readable too, and the natural overheat made it easy to understand when to strike, and rewarding you for it too.

Maybe im just experiencing a skill issue though since its new.

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by A_pet_tick:

The patch notes say that the new ones are supposed to be less "drop what your doing to focus on this enemy"

Uhh... what?

That's literally the opposite of what it says.

Overall, Alphas are no longer a "stop everything and run" enemy - they're now more of a "focus and time your attack" enemy.

[A_pet_tick]

Originally posted by Chibbity:

Originally posted by A_pet_tick:

The patch notes say that the new ones are supposed to be less "drop what your doing to focus on this enemy"

Uhh... what?

That's literally the opposite of what it says.

Overall, Alphas are no longer a "stop everything and run" enemy - they're now more of a "focus and time your attack" enemy.

i shoulda looked at the patchnotes before writing that to better illustrate my point, but i think my idea was still accurate. albeit poorly communicated

"Drop what your doing to focus on this enemy" is very similar to (the first half of) "stop everything and run", and describes what my original playstyle against aplha dogs was (and tbh still is)

[A_pet_tick]

honestly im starting to think im maybe misunderstanding what the patch notes meant, because it felt like a "focus and time you attack" enemy before. Just one that you ran away from during the "focus" period.
And now it feels harder to do that (to me) because turbo and overheat are no longer used to communicate the state of the alpha dog

[A_pet_tick]

Update: Ive learned that dashing past it (to the side) while its attacking makes it come out of attack mode & become vunrable, since it seems to lunge -> whif -> and then go into non agro mode.
Kinda wish King suggested that in the voice lines because thats a game changer.

[litekoala]

you can use the buzzsaw to saw them anywhere

[T-TaaN]

It's ok, You need just punch them everywhere but "mouth", even head from behind (or right top head, you can hit it from the side or behind to avoid saws). If you have enough arm strench, you can even fall them (by performing a hook) and then punch everywhere. If you want to be rock and don't move when dog is running on you, you can hook their sides or (less safe) fast stab their chest, or even slap their ass (althrough it's hard to do without touching the saws). It's not that hard to avoid their saws, not even saying that they close their saws when rotating, althrough they're still pretty annoying, especially when there's couple of them.

[Zed Conagher]

Personally, what I do Is I bait them to charge, and once they stop I grab them from behind with the grabber and just...Slam them around, this ONLY WORKS If It's a 1v1 or enemies are otherwise distracted, this won't work If there are roaches or wolves attacking you due to how heavy the Alpha Dog's are.