This was the original storyline script intended for HW2

[SneerfulOwl]

No Vagyr invasion, no Starkillers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLnkOyQRuGQ

They had to scrap all storyline that just to rush out the game and just come up with "even more powerful enemy invasion" redundant plot.

[Sammi79]

After reading that convoluted mess I'm not surprised they changed it assuming it is truthfully the original concept (about which I would require more proof than: Some say it was concept for "original" Homeworld 2 and later it was changed. to be sure)

[Mr.Thi]

In Tanis Shipyard forum there once was something like the story planned before. But I'm not sure if it was like that.

I can only remember that Hiigarans grew to an empire and there was some big conflict involving the Bentusi, Galactic council and a Hiigaran Flagship (was it Lazarus?). At least the Flagship got one of the cores and was super dangerous.

As I said can't really remember it all, but was more interesting than the story the final HW2 got.

There should be a early E3 footage on youtube ....

Well got it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXGUU611ZPA

So well - at least he's right, the original Homeworld 2 was a bit more ambitious thn what we finally got. But so far I think it's still good what we have to today and will get this month.

^^ ... The E3 stuff shows what could be the possible dimensions of a HW3 in the Future.

I think they scrapped it back then, because the Hardware was not able to handle all the 3D collision detection and path calculations that such complex environments would have required.

[Sammi79]

The HW2 story was poor in comparison to HW1 - but really how do you better the epic struggle contained within that story?

Had HW1 not been the bar by which to measure HW2 I very much doubt people would criticise the HW2 story so much. Then again people here seem to really rate Cataclysym, when the story in that was a simplistic derivative of very old sci-fi tropes. (not knocking it - it made for a nailbiting game for sure)

On the other hand, my previous post was plainly critical, in regard to whomever may have put together that 10 minute montage - it's not bad in all honesty but it doesn't end up setting the scene for what is an invidual battle by battle space RTS game, more a kind of 4xStar Ruler esque theme.

And ultimately yes it would be very nice if one day HW3 is made featuring some of those immense and beautiful structures we can see in the trailer above.

[gen_maczek]

You should start from here:

http://www.homeworldaccess.net/downl...of_hiigara.pdf

and read until Higgarains were exiled to Kharak. Then you should stop reading this and switch to manual of HW1:

http://www.replacementdocs.com/download.php?view.555

when you finish reading HW1 manual (story part) - perfectly - you should finish HW1 game and then switch again to:

http://www.homeworldaccess.net/downl...of_hiigara.pdf

to uderstand what is HW2 all about. After finishing this you should - perfectly - finish HW2 game

And finally you closed the story.

[Prophet_01]

cool stuff. thx for sharing those documents and videos

I agree that parts of the homeworld 2 story aren't that great. the 3 core thing being the most obvious to me. I read the orignal homeworld's story documents before playing homeworld 2 and I wasn#t happy with that prophecy and mythology stuff :(
But honestly, I'm pretty ok with that whole invasion plot and the progenitor story. The nicely done videos and the voice acting sold it to me.
The canceled story would have been pretty great aswell, but I'm not sure if it would have been better.

[ORCACommander]

There are documents on the web, which i do not have time to find at this moment, About HW's original plot of Dust Wars. they were official scripts leaked or released outright by relic.

the reason we got the story we did in hw 2 was because sierra scrapped dustwars halfway into production and told them they still had to meet the old deadline.

[gen_maczek]

There you go about "dust wars"

http://assam.studio-gepard.pl/showfile.php?id=48

Homeworld has a great franchise potential ! One can write awesome saga of Higgarians history. It could be as good and as reach as Star Wars. Great plot, great realm, full of beauty the sci-fi literature has.

It has also potential for movie or serial with many seasons.

I hope someone will notice potential this history has and do great art with it.

[TheDutchGhost]

If they ever continue, please let them drop the 'magical' hyperdrive cores made by the progenitors that make anyone who is hooked into them immortal.

Honestly, it felt like the writers wanted to come up with their own version of the Force but had to settle for this because there is no indication of any mystical energy field in the Homeworld universe.

Honestly, I hated the whole concept or the fact that Karan S'jet had become immortal and was now made leader of Higara. She was a scientist, not a politician, and I don't see immortality as a reason to make someone a leader.

[SgtScum]

There is a huge convoluted history in the making of hw2 with relic and sierra battling tooth and nail over development funds and time limits and of course the endless shenannigans of marweas and his shmaltzy ways. Sierra was basically a failing studio/publisher at the time hw2 was being made and they were more interested in games to generate quick sales to milk as much money as possible before they went under and were being total pricks to relic because they thought it would take too much money and time to make hw2. However relic pulled off a few minor miracles and you see the slightly flawed result. Then thq bought out vivendi who had bought out sierra along with the hw ip and by that time relic had scored on the warhammer 40k ip and lost all interest in any other hw titles as most of the key relic devs from the hw days were long gone along with the foudners. Sad sad days and months and years followed with periodic 'save the homeworld ip' threads on the odd fansite here and there then one day we opened up our browsers and found out that gearbox had aquired the ip and hope flamed anew. It was quickly extinguished as no new info was being released until seemingly out of nowhere the remastered collection hits the media and everyone is jumping on the bandwagon. We can only hope it sells very well and allows gearbox to expand on the ip and flesh it out they way it was imagined all those years ago.

[TVMAN]

Honestly, everything from five minutes in sounds like it could be the plot for HW3. The hyperspace gate network was reopened at the end of HW2, wasn't it? The Dust Wars story can still be used for a sequel with a few adjustments.

[SneerfulOwl]

If there will ever be a sequel.

[Lora Grim]

For some reason i find myself rather cynical when looking at this. I don't really care what main story homeworld 2 ended up with. It could not be any more typical than it is. You could battle aliens from another dimension or time traveling humans from Earth. Doesn't matter. Not to me anyway.

[Farlion]

This sounds even worse than what we got.

[Connatic]

Originally posted by Sir Gentleman Shark:

If there will ever be a sequel.

http://blackbirdinteractive.com/games/
http://blackbirdinteractive.com/media/

[SneerfulOwl]

Originally posted by Connatic:

Originally posted by Sir Gentleman Shark:

If there will ever be a sequel.

http://blackbirdinteractive.com/games/
http://blackbirdinteractive.com/media/

Prequel