Are Hiigarans humans?

[Lora Grim]

The lady in the mothership looks human enough. Does that mean that the remnants that made it to Kharak were human survivors? Was the attacking race also humans or aliens?
Or is the homeworld universe like an alternate dimension where humans are not really humans and they aren't from Earth?

I was trying to wiki this info but they didn't really mention anything about the origins of the remnants. It just said that the people of Kharak forgot their origins.

[Mr.Thi]

All the races from Homeworld (except Beast from Cata and the Progenitor) where somewhat human style. But there is no reference to earth or something like that. So it's basically like it Starwars... Humans everywhere, but no earth.

Taiidan had some creepy dog creatures XD...

Well you could always take hiigara for past or future earth but I that's left to imagination.

[bliss]

Or is the homeworld universe like an alternate dimension where humans [...] aren't from Earth?

This. It's a common sci-fi trope to use an alternative universe where there are humans and "Earth in all but name". This frees them of any historical, technological, sociopolitical or continuity conflicts while still telling a story about the human condition.

There's a lot of "that's convenient" attributes, like Earth-based time units (days, years, centuries), where we're expected to assume Kharak & Hiigara both have a ~24/365 cycle, for example.

Read the stats, sound familiar? http://homeworld.wikia.com/wiki/Hiigara

[bliss]

Originally posted by Mr.Thi:

u could always take hiigara for past or future earth but I that's left to imagination.

Not really, as the continents are completely different and Hiigara is in the galactic centre.

[MeatPopsicle]

Homeworld isn't even necessarily set in the milky way

[Skeloton]

Originally posted by xlynx:

Not really, as the continents are completely different and Hiigara is in the galactic centre.

Just want to point out that the continents arent static and are moving very slowly, Pangea anyone?

Originally posted by MeatPopsicle:

Homeworld isn't even necessarily set in the milky way

Yeah it isnt.

Artistic impressions paint the milkyway as having many many arms.

The HW galaxy is a simple 2 armed spiral galaxy

[Lora Grim]

After reading most of the homeworld wiki place xlynx gave me, my only question now is for the future of all this. Hiigarans were as bad as the Empire, in fact, one could say they were worse because the bad kind of Empire rose because of the actions of the old Hiigarans. Now they have their core back. They have an insane amount of power again after homeworld 2. Will they become terrible again? Or are Hiigarans now like the Bentusi?

[bliss]

Originally posted by Lora Grim:

Hiigarans were as bad as the Empire, in fact, one could say they were worse because the bad kind of Empire rose because of the actions of the old Hiigarans.

And they paid for it dearly. A complete erasure of history, 3,000 years of exile in the desert, genocide. It's a great piece of info because it informs why the Tiidan seem so heartless. They're not just "evil"; it's vengeance to them. It says a lot about the cycle of violence and how transcending that would not be weak, but courageous.

Now they have their core back. They have an insane amount of power again after homeworld 2. Will they become terrible again? Or are Hiigarans now like the Bentusi?

I don't know, but that's very thought provoking! It would be a great opportunity to commentate on the nature of empires and how power can corrupt[www.brainyquote.com]. I think any sequel should definitely explore more about the nature of the "bound" and "unbound" and The Progenitor race.

[Done]

I just want to let you all know that my fanfic cannon head thinking leads me to believe that the Progenitors were human and advanced so far ahead of everyone else they just 'poofed' themselves to another Galaxy; leaving behind their robots as wreckage.

[Lora Grim]

Originally posted by Space Hamster:

I just want to let you all know that my fanfic cannon head thinking leads me to believe that the Progenitors were human and advanced so far ahead of everyone else they just 'poofed' themselves to another Galaxy; leaving behind their robots as wreckage.

It was mentioned that the galaxy doesn't even look like milky way, though. So either humanity settled in every galaxy, or left some machine that creates life that resembles humans. Or if any of the races are descendants of humanity then i'd say it doesn't even really matter any more. Trillions of years would need to pass for the galaxy to look different. Everything would be erased by then unless humanity is actively maintaining stuff.

[Slamminslug]

Originally posted by Space Hamster:

I just want to let you all know that my fanfic cannon head thinking leads me to believe that the Progenitors were human and advanced so far ahead of everyone else they just 'poofed' themselves to another Galaxy; leaving behind their robots as wreckage.

Alternatively, the Progenitors in Homeworld may have been a massive colorny of humans traveling from the milky way to this new galaxy by way of a Humongous pioneer ship...
(IE... the one that's blown up all over the place...)

all of these races may be semi-evolved, demi humans, which have vastly different technologies due to them all interpreting the progenitors's tech in their own way.

Why human pioneers would install hyperdrive infrastructure in a galaxy they were only visiting, and brought legions of autonomous warships is beyond me, but perhaps, before the big ship went ka-BANG they intended to stay...

[Vib3s.]

It would be interesting if the Progenitors would actually be a far advanced humanity coming from an (by now) ancient earth and at some point became "Galaxy jumpers". Kickstarting civilizations wherever they go.

Although their leftover technology doesn't seem very friendly whenever it comes in contact with ships from another race. The keeper being one example.

[Done]

Originally posted by Vib3s:

It would be interesting if the Progenitors would actually be a far advanced humanity coming from an (by now) ancient earth and at some point became "Galaxy jumpers". Kickstarting civilizations wherever they go.

Although their leftover technology doesn't seem very friendly whenever it comes in contact with ships from another race. The keeper being one example.

The fact there is a dyson sphere floating about in HW1 and HW2 backgrounds in stuff like the Karos Graveyard leaves me to believe those guys originally wanted to stay in the current HW galaxy but for some reason said 'nope' and just jumped off to somewhere else.

Even if the Keeper is hostile, it only attacked S'jet and her forces because they disturbed the graveyard; otherwise it would leave them alone.

Hell, I don't think the Keepers would be that pissed off and just let the first Keeper die in the hyperspace gravity well and let bygones be bygones. That is, if it weren't for the Hiigarans stealing an entire functioning dreadnaught from them(remember; the Keepers are self-aware AI's). Hence why the Keepers had chased after them in hyperspace.

The phase-out technology the Keepers have to 'heal their ships in another dimension' just confirmed my doubts that the Progenitors were way too advanced to have originated from HW's cannon galaxy (I think this is also mentioned somewhere in cutscene that they didn't belong in the HW's cannon galaxy either). Something similar to the Naggarok in Cataclysm where an alien race just kept jumping from one galaxy to another. The difference being that while Naggarok was just a scout ship, they pretty much just jumped everyone of their race to another galaxy because they probably found somewhere better to 'settle down.' Actually, there could be millions of reasons for them to just up and leave, but when you have the keys to the Universe, I wouldn't be surprised that they did just 'leave' like they did from the context of the game.

[Firewalk]

Its probably like in Star Trek. They look human, but they aren't.

[bliss]

I'm just so glad they all speak English and use the same radio frequencies.

[Lora Grim]

For some reason thinking about super advanced races meeting new ones gives me strange thoughts. Like... the hyperspace cores are a big thing. But what if hyperspace jumping was not even it's main purpose any more and they were used to power vending machines across the galaxy?

"Fffh, yeah. Those progenitor ships you guys had so much trouble with. We actually used them for target practise. Their lasers couldn't even kill a single person let alone blow up ships. No idea why you guys had so much trouble with them." That kind of thing.