where is the fun in this game?!

[Bombax]

today i bought homeworld in sale at 13€,and after downloading i played it for one hour and half,but apart the really good looking graphic,i didn t find anything, the gameplay is slow and boring and the only thing you have to do is to order your ships to attack and then only look them that fly in the space and fire for about 15 minutes.so what is so funny in homewold that it is praised from everyone?!
P.S. sorry for my bad english,i am still learning

[SievertChaser]

Most RTS games are about your dudes shooting other dudes. What else did you expect? Especially considering the amount of RTS's you already own, especially the rather classic Dawn of War.

[Bombax]

Originally posted by dennis.danilov:

Most RTS games are about your dudes shooting other dudes. What else did you expect? Especially considering the amount of RTS's you already own, especially the rather classic Dawn of War.

yes,i own a lot of rts but they are totally different,the battle between units aren t eternal and you feel the battle in homeworld i see only spaceships flying around. it s the first space rts i try,and maybe is that space charateristic that i don t like and not homeworld in particular bah
luckly there is the steam refund

[SievertChaser]

Originally posted by Bombax:

Originally posted by dennis.danilov:

Most RTS games are about your dudes shooting other dudes. What else did you expect? Especially considering the amount of RTS's you already own, especially the rather classic Dawn of War.

yes,i own a lot of rts but they are totally different,the battle between units aren t eternal and you feel the battle in homeworld i see only spaceships flying around. it s the first space rts i try,and maybe is that space charateristic that i don t like and not homeworld in particular bah
luckly there is the steam refund

On the one hand, you can still refund.

On the other, you haven't gotten to the sweet part. The next mission introduces the main plotline and frigates. Frigates make battles a bit shorter. Eventually you get even bigger ships. A heavy cruiser melts a frigate in one salvo.

In the end, all space games are about ships flying around. It's either a furball of fighters and corvettes, or larger ships trading salvos. For me, this is as viable as infantry and tanks trading fire. And the battles never felt longer than in CoH.

You haven't seen true curb-stomps. Thus far you could only have used Interceptors and four corvette types. Later classes put out a lot of firepower, resulting in a lot of action on the screen.

[Riggs]

sure the first missions are easy but later missions require tactics like the one im currently on i have to manuver around the enemy so i can strike the weak points of their ships.

[SievertChaser]

And HW2 has non-stop action, whereas HW1 is quite long-winded.

[joeymoto]

Keep trying at the game, there's nothing more awesome than epic space shootouts like in Homeworld. If you've only played an hour and a half, odds are you've still got a lot to see/learn so I'd stick at it unless you're vehemently against the game lol.

[Jeckenn]

You might like to try Homeworld 2 the pace of gameplay is much quicker in that game. Also Homeworld 1 was originally developed with a physics based game engine where everything was calculated where as Homeworld 2 was made with a different game engine the uses RNG to determine hits or misses.

So when they decided to remaster Homeworld 1 they used the Homeworld 2 game engine and therefore it does not have the same gameplay that the original had. Its formations for ships is not working, tactics are a bit of a joke compared to the original, the developer is working on fixes but it will likely never be what the original game was in terms of gameplay.

That is why I would recommend you try Homeworld 2 Remastered because at least it is using the same game engine it was originally developed with.

[=HellFire=]

HW gets better after mission 3 or 4. I was hooked after that. Please try again and continue - it's worth it! Trust me.

[Oliseo]

It was fun, 15 years ago.

Today, I'd get your money back.

[Labaar]

Originally posted by oliseo:

It was fun, 15 years ago.

Today, I'd get your money back.

Its still fun. Actually you get all 4 races to choose from now.

[Chris]

From what you're saying this might not be your genre of a game.
Most strategy games are slow paced with lots of micro/macro- anagement, age of empries, total war series, supreme commander, etc.

If you want fast paced RTS you'll probably go for star craft 2 or something a bit more pacey and less "boring"

[Khanwolf]

Yes, this is a September 1999 Release HW1 --- September 2003 Release HW2 in a really bad or really good remaster. depends on your point of view:

HW1 uses the HW2 engine now in the remastered version and lost some of his core game mechanics through these changes. although it is playable and highly enjoyable seen as an old piece of art.

HW2 was the second Sequel* and is some kind of beautiful casual homeworld 1 reboot. we enjoyed this in 2003 on LAN-Events and this represents one of the first 3D Single- and Multiplayer-Highlights after all the glorious 90s godlike unforgotten games.

Both games are hard to beat. there is no difficulty-setting, so just 75% of us hardcore-fanboys saw the ending credits. The new Textures are just bringing back old memories, so i understand you people here saying: This is an old and crappy game. Because it is.


*There is a secret:

HW1 was great but somehow we fanboys knew there was more. HW2 in 2003 changed nothing because there was already a Sequel: "Barking Dogs Studios" released Homeworld Cataclysm (a stand-alone-add-on from a small third party publisher under a license)

Homeworld Cataclysm used the HW1 engine but brought some totally new game-mechanics. f.e: small fighters could be docked together to become bigger Corvettes. the mothership was way smaller but highly customizable, dogfights were stressful because the HW1 core mechanics opened up the combat options infight, crazy combat possibilities.... and the enemies... NO... THE ENEMY was different, innovative, unbeatable and adapting to your fleet like in all HW games. I will not write down the name because i am still full of fear.

Homeworld Cataclysm is the thing you all heard about when people bow down while the title "Homeworld" is mentioned.

But HW Cataclysm is not possible, the remastered series is using the HW2 engine. (And there is an official "Lie" about the loss of the Catyclysm Sourcecode.) Every classic HW player will say Cataclysm is the real HW of all 3 titles!


In a way you bought the wrong game... because you have heard about THIS when people bow down before the Homeworld Shrine. Cataclysm was a different and totally deep experience:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDcELUCroDs


Open a Thread in this forum and call it: "We are the Kiith Somtaaw"... all the classic players will go crazy, cry and scream around in tears and spit. Fanboys will commit suicide or gear up in the next weapon shop for countless murder! You will define the "Cataclysm". The end of the Nerd-World.

There is no Homeworld without Cataclysm. Every old player from the Homeworld Era knows this.

[SievertChaser]

So, wait, there is a conspiracy to keep Cataclysm from the players because, why again?

[Khanwolf]

Homeworld 1 and 2 were created by Relic... Cataclysm was created by "Barking Dog Studios" using the engine and the logos under license.

Barking Dog Studios were closed. Gearbox doesnt have the Source Code.

The day they were revealing the Remastered Collection was the day they said there will be no Cataclysm ever. It was the second sentence in the Announcement. Gearbox knows the worth of Cataclysm!

The Truth is: it would be a really hard piece of work. For a 30 Euro Title this was never the plan. The Remastered Collection is just a cosmetic update. i still have the old bugs i had on my Voodoo Graphic Card, experiencing the same on a gtx 750. They will not program a whole game for a simple addon. This is a Marketing Problem. It is logical. There will be no Cataclysm.

Watching the Homeworld Remastered Collection Selling Units, Cataclysm has the only chance as a 50 Euro Full Retail concerning the money Gearbox had to spend into the development.

There is no logical reason to bring this back.

[Sentinel-Ghost]

Now i've heard it all.

Conspiracy Theories FTW.