Install Homeworld Classic Without Installing Remastered...?

[Strangerhand]

Why not? ???

[Firestorm🗿]

Because the games are launched though a launcher that you have to launch from the steam library.

[Strangerhand]

Meh. What's a good work-around? Classic also takes up a LOT less HDD space than Remastered, ya know.

[Firestorm🗿]

Originally posted by Strangerhand:

Meh. What's a good work-around? Classic also takes up a LOT less HDD space than Remastered, ya know.

There is no work around. Unless you get a seperate download of HWC from a different source.

[Strangerhand]

Originally posted by Strangerhand:

Classic also takes up a LOT less HDD space than Remastered, ya know.

Aw, they should incorporate such a feature! hehehehehehe

[Firestorm🗿]

Originally posted by Strangerhand:

Originally posted by Strangerhand:

Classic also takes up a LOT less HDD space than Remastered, ya know.

Aw, they should incorporate such a feature! hehehehehehe

Unlikely they will, Gearbox stopped support for this game years ago. Everyone on the Homeworld teams is working on HW3 and HW Mobile now anyway...

[Strangerhand]

Well I wouldn't care if it were done by Gearbox or other modders/programmers, really.

Is it a bad feature, what I mentioned? I don't really play Remastered since they screwed it up (and no fix for that yet), but I would play a bit of Classic sometime from time to time. Why install both when Remastered is like 25GB while Classic is like around 1½GB, IIRC. Yeah, I'd rather have that extra 25GB free from a game that I'm not even playing, but 1½GB is way better for my HDD right now, see.

Also, that's a damned shame that Gearbox ceases support for a game they still sell, or did you not notice that. They support what they sell, or they'd stop selling it, no...?

[Firestorm🗿]

Originally posted by Strangerhand:

Well I wouldn't care if it were done by Gearbox or other modders/programmers, really.

Is it a bad feature, what I mentioned? I don't really play Remastered since they screwed it up (and no fix for that yet), but I would play a bit of Classic sometime from time to time. Why install both when Remastered is like 25GB while Classic is like around 1½GB, IIRC. Yeah, I'd rather have that extra 25GB free from a game that I'm not even playing, but 1½GB is way better for my HDD right now, see.

Also, that's a damned shame that Gearbox ceases support for a game they still sell, or did you not notice that. They support what they sell, or they'd stop selling it, no...?

They released the game in 2015 for christ's sake. No game development company keeps up support for a game that has no other way of generating revenue than the purchase for that many years... With few exceptions that is...

[Attorney-at-Meme]

You could create a shortcut for HWC and then just delete the directories for HW2 and HWR, and the launcher.

Not entirely sure if that'll work, but should hypothetically.

[Strangerhand]

Originally posted by Firestorm:

They released the game in 2015 for christ's sake.

So it just came out only a few years ago. So what, what does that mean? ???

No game development company keeps up support for a game that has no other way of generating revenue than the purchase for that many years...

Oh, please! It was standard fare that software titles were supported by the manufacturer that made and put them on the retail market for sale, as long as they made and sold any particular title!

Did you think Homeworld Remastered [2015] is the first computer game I ever bought? No, this is, when it was brand new liek billions and billions of game purchases ago!!1!1!!![www.mobygames.com] and I've been buying them ever since.

When some whatever title goes Out of Print (e.g., publisher doesn't create or distribute such title any more and it is thus no longer on the retail market), they usually don't offer any tech support for it any more either. Homeworld Remastered is, in fact, right now, as I type this, available for retail sale:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/244160/Homeworld_Remastered_Collection/

With few exceptions that is...

Exceptions? Explain, Spock hehehehehehe

[Attorney-at-Meme]

In practice, most developers/publishers don't support their games beyond the first year or two of release. Much of the time they don't even fully finish development of the game either. It didn't use to be this way, but in this era of digital distribution that's the way it is.

[Strangerhand]

Originally posted by Attorney at Meme:

In practice, most developers/publishers don't support their games beyond the first year or two of release. Much of the time they don't even fully finish development of the game either. It didn't use to be this way, but in this era of digital distribution that's the way it is.

Looks like in the change from real-world hard-copy retail distribution & sales to cyberspatial digital retail distribution & sales, they're doing what they always do in about everything: throwing the baby out with the bathwater. But I think all parties concerned could stand a chance of benefitting in their various specific ways more greatly than that, all on a more even keel when more conscientiousness is brought to how the change is gone about while it's happening, which is these days, see.

[Strangerhand]

Originally posted by Attorney at Meme:

You could create a shortcut for HWC and then just delete the directories for HW2 and HWR, and the launcher.

Not entirely sure if that'll work, but should hypothetically.

Yeah, I could try that, that's a good idea to try. I'll come back to this thread with some information about what happened after I try that.

[Raiden_chino]

Decided to try this myself and it works. You can test it by moving the folders "DataHW1Campaign", "DataHW2Campaign" and "Data" that are inside "HomeworldRM". That's almost 7 GB of files.
The other folders there are you profile (inside "bin"), "DataUpdates" and a folder for workshop items if you are suscribed to any mod. Don't touch them, as Steam will try to download them again when you launch the game.

The HW Launcher even detects that you don't have the Remastered versions installed and have both grayed out.

[Firestorm🗿]

Originally posted by Strangerhand:

Originally posted by Attorney at Meme:

In practice, most developers/publishers don't support their games beyond the first year or two of release. Much of the time they don't even fully finish development of the game either. It didn't use to be this way, but in this era of digital distribution that's the way it is.

Looks like in the change from real-world hard-copy retail distribution & sales to cyberspatial digital retail distribution & sales, they're doing what they always do in about everything: throwing the baby out with the bathwater. But I think all parties concerned could stand a chance of benefitting in their various specific ways more greatly than that, all on a more even keel when more conscientiousness is brought to how the change is gone about while it's happening, which is these days, see.

Unfortunately what you think would be best (which is what I also think would be best) is not what is happening and it is unlikely to change given the new attitude of the new game developement market as a whole... (not all game developers are like the developers of say, Fractured Space or Empire at War anymore) I am fairly certain that the only way Gearbox would keep support for the game longer than with HWRM for HW3 and HW Mobile is if they bung in microtransactions... Which tbh I am not angry about as long as they are reasonable and reasonably priced and of course on the condition that THEY DON'T SELL OUT TO EPIC

[Attorney-at-Meme]

I can't stand games that are in constant flux and involve endless milking with DLC. Updates are good only if they improve the game without wrecking it. In some ways, it's good when a developer stops supporting a game, as long as that game was in good shape when they stopped.