Logitech 3D Pro Sufficient for this game?

[TheeDugster]

I don't intend to be the best player ever but I was wondering if you think that is sufficient. Also how active is the playerbase in this game?

[J5_Hotlead]

Hi TheeDugster!

Yup, the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro is sufficient for this game. It was my trusty stick for 3 or so years. Recently, I bit the bullet and purchased a CH CombatStick and CH Pro Throttle, and while I love them and they do add more features and immersion, they basically carry out the same function my old Extreme 3D Pro did. Many of our Aces still use that stick.

In response to your other question, Rise of Flight has a smaller, but very active playerbase. If you're expecting 100+ players in multiplayer servers, you might be disappointed. But, if you're looking for a tight-knit community of pilots who are (for the most part) interested in keeping the game going, then Rise of Flight is for you! ;)

PS: Here is a link to Rise of Flight's official forums if you'd like to get plugged in there:
http://riseofflight.com/forum/

Also, here is a link to New Wings Training's website. They are a nonprofit group interested in helping new players to Rise of Flight:
http://newwingstraining.org/news.php

[TheeDugster]

Thanks for the response. My main problem right now is a couple things; getting smoother without autopilot (so i can actually hit something on demand, herde) and getting the camera to work like the Youtubers do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5XsIej0TUA

This is a good example. I suspect that they use TrackIR though I have no intention to get anything of that sort. If you could give me a general rundown of how to set that up that would be fanastic though I know I am asking a lot of you.

[J5_Hotlead]

Hi mate!

I'm pretty busy for the rest of tonight, but I will try and get back to you tomorrow. ;)

[TheeDugster]

No worries, thanks!

[afederowicz]

It will work, but a true HOTAS setup withe real pedals would realy give you a better feal for the flight and handling :-)

[TheeDugster]

When I get a small loan of a million dollars that wil be first on my mind XD. But honestly if you are gonna go down that road you might as well get the good stuff and that is 500 dollars plus combined.

[J5_Hotlead]

Originally posted by TheeDugster:

Thanks for the response. My main problem right now is a couple things; getting smoother without autopilot (so i can actually hit something on demand, herde) and getting the camera to work like the Youtubers do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5XsIej0TUA

This is a good example. I suspect that they use TrackIR though I have no intention to get anything of that sort. If you could give me a general rundown of how to set that up that would be fanastic though I know I am asking a lot of you.

Hi TheeDugster!

Yes indeed, it looks like they are using TrackIR in that video. Personally, I can't recommend it enough. It totally changed my gameplay experience and gave me the situational awareness to start winning fights. However, I understand that at approximately $150 USD, it is more than a little pricey.

If you're not doing TrackIR, you have 3 options to look around in cockpit.

1. Use the mouse to look around. This, in my opinion is the least-intuitive way to look around, as it is pretty hard to fly with a joystick while doing this.

2. Use snap views. If you have the Logitech Extreme 3D joystick, this is relatively easy. It has an 8-way hat switch that Rise of Flight will automatically assign to look around. This is probably the cheapest and most hassle-free way to look around in flight. Here's a link to a thread where I posted a suggested setup for the Extreme 3D joystick that works with snap views (see 2nd post):
http://riseofflight.com/forum/topic/45766-logitect-extreme-3d-configuration/

3. Use a different head tracking software such as FreeTrack.
http://www.free-track.net/english/
I personally have never used it before, since I already own TrackIR and am perfectly satisfied with it. However, from what I've heard, FreeTrack can be a budget-conscious way (you only have to buy a webcam) to get a gameplay experience close to TrackIR. However, I can't vouch for its ease-of-use, having never used it before myself. If you are interested in this venue, definitely consider posting in the ROF forums and someone more knowledgeable than I will almost certainly be able to explain it to you. ;)

Hope some of this helps!
- Hotlead

[TheeDugster]

Wow. Thank you so much for your response! I will definitely check these out.

[afederowicz]

Here is a H.O.T.A.S. system for a very reasonable price... You can also buy additional software to make commands do quite a bit more... I will include link to both right here...
Here is Main HOTAS, and it actually has two types of pedal actuators built into it, which can be incredible for use with Mechwarrior games:https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-Playstation-3/dp/B001CXYMFS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1467612221&sr=8-2&keywords=thrustmaster+t.flight+hotas+4

Next is actual pedals for same system brand for even more serious realism, and especially usefull for complex aircaft control maneuvers like slips... etc... https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Flight-Rudder-Pedals-Playstation-4/dp/B015PII6YI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467612527&sr=8-1&keywords=thrustmaster+t.flight+pedals

and fanally here is some additional softwarethat will give many more complex commands: http://pinnaclegameprofiler.com/

It looks pretty flexable ! Also to use your headset and voice commands, which is almost manditory for controlling flight simulator wing-mates... I use Voice Attack: https://www.voiceattack.com/

It is a very well programmed product, and has many aftermarket add-on modules for every kind of PC or MAC game or software. I recommend making laminated commend sheets to set in book -holders or wall clips, for quick reference to the right command, at the right moment...

Finally You can use ONLY JUST your PC Web-Camera for head motion... You do not need all the other gizmos, but its your call on that... I just found out about this option, so here you go...

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/control-any-game-with-your-webcam-using-camspace/

Ok... Hope this helps... Ps... You are invited to Join Group MOBIUS PvE for ELITE DANGEROUS, and look up CMDR: AQUILLA NOVA, and I'll fly missions with you any old time... Same with Rise of Flight, I will practice any type of mission in it with you, but I'm a newie to that one... I am very good at Elite Dangerous, IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs of Dover, and can learn any flight sim you would like to buddy up on... Also purchased NO MANS SKY, but its held up until August, and also very good with Microsoft FSX on Steam... Drop me a line, if you see a game I have you want to try COOP on... Good luck with R.O.F. !

[afederowicz]

Originally posted by TheeDugster:

Wow. Thank you so much for your response! I will definitely check these out.

I may have given a confusing and incorrect link for the Webcam controlled head-movement software that you can use with R.O.F. as a head movement controller... Sorry, and here is link again: http://www.camspace.com/

[TheeDugster]

This community has staggered me with support after my experience in War Thunder, lol. Thanks a ton again! I think I am going to pick up IL-2 Sturmovik: 1946 for 2 bucks.

[afederowicz]

IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 ! Oh man I flew in a group called AG-26 for years ! That Sim has control realism, that goes from everything super easy and automatic for newbies up to absolute realism !!! On PC's now it will run absolute top level, in maxed out graphics mode, because it was originally coded for single core PC's ! You will love it I'll bet :-)
Here is Our Groups site: http://www.ag26.org/

[afederowicz]

Here are two IL-2 add on sites to explore, and many many more are out there !
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php
http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=ForumsPro&file=viewtopic&t=15255

[TheeDugster]

Awesome thank you.