A Shadow Watch clone?

[The Cunning Fox (raZoleg)]

Is it?

[Ivana Humpalot]

The word clone carries a negative connotation and I think it would not decribe this game in a fair way.

With that said, I can imagine some inspiration has been drawn from Shadow Watch.
In my humble opinion, this it not necessarily a bad thing.

Turn based game are a rarity these days.
Good turn based games are very rare indeed.

If this game will be able to provide similar levels of entertainment and comparable atmosphere as Shadow Watch did, I just might fall in love with it.

Links to information on Shadow watch, so everyone can clearly see what the subject of discussion is:

Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Watch

Playthrough (youtube, and not me playing)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHHPsLmfOa4

[The Cunning Fox (raZoleg)]

I was just surprised that nobody mentioned it.

I had to resort to this "strong" language in order to draw more people to the topic actually, to be honest I just wanted people to try find out what Shadow Watch is as it was perhaps the first animated top-dow, turn-based sneaker (in my memory).

And also so that people won't go comparing future titles in the genre to this game, as it is unfair to the progenitor - Shadow Watch. It makes me feel exactly the same feeling I had when everyone was comparing new FPSs to Halo when obviously there was Quake 1 and 2, or when a semi-realistic shooter with elements of tactics is released and people compare it to CS while obviously R6 was and is the ultimate tactical shooter.

I understand why companies are doing it, if you bring something up from the past that actually has more features than your title you will definately fail, so you compare it to a more famous but shallow competitor. I hope that's not the case here, but don't forget who stood at the beginnings of a genre so you actually have something to compare it to, and not be like an arrogant IGN reviewer that has an embarassingly miniature knowledge of gaming industry seeing every new game as "an original concept".

[Ace Harding]

Everything is derivative, especially video games

[The Cunning Fox (raZoleg)]

When evolution turns into degradation, you need to remember your roots. Most new games remove features that are genre-defining.

[Philip Marlowe]

Great thread. Thanks Fox.

[RaaaahMan]

Didn't know shadow watch, thanks for the discover.

Didn't like the "old vs. new" direction of the debate though. Can't good old games hang around with fresh new stuff like pals?

[The Cunning Fox (raZoleg)]

Of course, it's not "old vs. new", it's "it's not revolutionary new". I'm just reminding people, not criticising. Pay no attention to the title of the thread, it's just a hook.

I see people already making reviews like "it's a mix of X-Com and Gunpoint".

[Hrdlodus]

Shadow Watch was the firt thing I remembered, when I started Invisible Inc. I only played a demo of Shadow Watch.
Do you know, where to buy it? THX

[EuerDickerFreund]

LOL - never!

[benjamincarylewis]

You can get Shadow Watch on gog.com

[Lore?]

The same way that this game is a clone of XCOM? Yes.
IE It has similar mechanics but is very different in a variety of ways.
And only ill-informed plebs would label this game as a clone.

[Hrdlodus]

Originally posted by benjamincarylewis:

You can get Shadow Watch on gog.com

Thanks, Benjamin.

[homedrone]

Interestingly, none of the dev team had heard of Shadow Watch until Early Access launched and someone asked us about. It was a surprise to me how much the two games have in common, like finding your dopleganger in an old photograph.

[Lazy]

Originally posted by homedrone:

Interestingly, none of the dev team had heard of Shadow Watch until Early Access launched and someone asked us about. It was a surprise to me how much the two games have in common, like finding your dopleganger in an old photograph.

Yes, history always repeating in different ways.