Larian has admitted Dragon Commander was and is a con!

[AuldWolf]

Just as I'd always suspected and claimed -- Dragon Commander fans were betrayed as the game was hacked to pieces and stitched into a cheap Frankenstein's monster just to bring in funds to support Original Sin. This shows an almost sociopathic disrespect for their fans. You can't just respect some of your fans, you have to respect us all.

There's no excuse for treatment like this. I've mentioned prior that Dragon Commander was originally meant to be a fully realised aerial combat game with the focus on the dragon. It was advertised that way, the promotional material focused on that, their Kickstarter promised that, and we got a half-arsed RTS game that would've been shameful in the '90s instead.

They butchered Dragon Commander and used it as a cheap cash-in to raise money for Original Sin. And what's worse is that they did the same thing with Divinity II -- that game was made for dragon fans, with a supposed focus on being a dragon. They went for the money, instead, and stabbed all of us dragon fans in the back. Dragon Commander was their apology, supposedly, their way to make up for stabbing us in the back.

And they stabbed us in the back again.

We have to stop trusting this developer. They're con men making half-arsed games for money. They've even come clean about it themselves, now, as I guess their guilt was getting the best of them. I'll never buy anything from Larian ever again, neither should you.

SOURCE: http://www.vg247.com/2015/03/04/divinity-original-sin-post-mortem-larian-studios/

[Stabbey]

You're over-reacting, and Larian is being overly self-deprecating.

Don't get me wrong, I have a whole[www.larian.com] bunch of[www.larian.com] complaints[www.larian.com] about the game, there are a lot of things I'd like to see improved, but it was not a scam or a con.


I thought it was a good game which integrated all its elements together pretty well. The RTS mode was definitely the weakest part, but the game was by no means crap.

Note that the GDC talk also had Vincke say that Divinity 2 was terrible, when most people, (especially after DKS was released) ended up considering it to be the best game Larian's ever made (until Original Sin at least).

It's rather refreshing to see developers who are willing to puublically admit that they screwed up, and that they have learned lessons about how to do things better.


EDIT: Oh, it's YOU again, Wolf. Nevermind, you're the one who was constantly throwing temper tantrums because you didn't pay any attention to all the well-known information about the gameplay changes between the initial announcements and the final release.

[Lцсᶖаᶇ º¹]

That's not a "con". Just another game where the devs didn't have the time and resources to do what they actually wanted.

[Cloud Kicker]

Like what you like, and make your wallet speak is what I always say

Although I will read the links from Stabbey in due time

I have to bequeath "AuldWolf ! Get down from that soapbox before you break something !". You're a level 0 Steam member probably only looking to rile some people up. You'd have a bigger chance of convincing Cawadjoodie fanboi's to stop buying map-packs.

[CrossLegLuke]

I had no idea what they advertised. Bought the game for what it was. Loved it. Never played a Divinity Title before this one. Bought Divinity 2, and working on getting OS now.

Hype Kills games lads, Hype kills games.

[Zangetsu]

In this age of internet reviews, you cant really say its a "con" even if they charge 10,000 dollars for this steaming pile of ♥♥♥♥. Buyer beware dude.

I paid 40 dollars after a thumbs up from angry joe, and then I unsubscribed from angry joe afterwards.

[Motoko]

ok so now that D:OS was a success and they have the money, they should start working to provide massive update to Dragon Commander and give us the game that was promised,

[Ferengi Family Values]

I thoroughly enjoyed this game despite its flaws.

[Lentobombe]

Originally posted by MindlessAutomata:

I thoroughly enjoyed this game despite its flaws.

And I'm actually enjoying it too !

[Zyhgar The Phoenix]

The game is good but not at it's current price, 40$ for what ?
There are only a few units and that's it in the creation video there where amazing skybattles but none of it in this, the risk styled game play is fun and some of RTS play and the dragon part too, there where more dragons but they where cut too. so it's worth it in sale time's like this 10$
i have the impreal edtion witch is 5$ more i think witch is reasnable you get art and some music art as well. over all the games worth it in when 10$ - 15%$.
I like this game for the RTS and dragon part.

Ew a ♥♥♥♥♥♥

[Lentobombe]

Well, got it thanks to the sale ! And admit that... well, 40 bucks is WAY too much for this. Half seem honest in my opinion, but anyway got it for 10 bucks, so all good !

[Patrick]

Intresting read. Could not believe how lose they where to go bankrupt. Glad they did it to save Original Sins. Definitely one of the best RPG of the last 10 years. So worth it.

[DedZedNub]

The original poster lost credibility when he claimed that Divinity II was terrible. In the latest revamped version with the add-ons, it's a very good, very deep, very long game. That's hardly a rip-off. Most people feel they get a lot of Dragon flying in that game as well, so where's the beef?

My main concern with Dragon Commander is whether or not it is finished or not. In fact, I'm about to open a thread asking which I should use, the Beta or the regular version? I had read they might revisit it to revise any bugs and features. Don't know if they ever did after the release of Original Sin.

NOTE:

Ends up that the BETA version is an old pre-order version. So stick with the normal version and it will not likely be updated further.

[Cloud Kicker]

Originally posted by DedZedNub:

The original poster lost credibility when he claimed that Divinity II was terrible...

Oh please do not let that discourage anyone from replying into this ancient thread. Even if multiple people have called him out on his flawed logic and/or "soap box shouting" mentality. Allow me to explain in 3 bullet points:

1# The game in itself is not bad at all, which should be said from the get-go.

2# The fact that people actually care enough to post about this game pleases me. In my humble opinion we need more games like this on PC. I miss the RTS and TBS genre a whole lot

3# people re-verifying my statement I made back in march, is in one form or another great for my ego :D

[PYROSIUM]

I love looking for info (cause I recently bought Dragon Commander), and seeing threads like these. I just find it funny Original Sin 2 is like, on par with Witcher and usually on the top selling games.

[Caridor]

So not a con, just rushed out to put more effort into a much better game. OP is a liar.