No one learned from Overwatch...

[{SoR} Blackfire1]

Putting a 2 =/= a sequal.
Helldivers 2 is a complete redesign of Helldivers 1. Thus is it a true sequel. It advances the tech and genre.

Overwatch 2? We all know it's Overwatch 1 locked behind a pay wall WE ALREADY PAID FOR.
So see Smite 2 not just head down the path but Naruto run into it like it's investing in HOA's.

[Hollow-Enigma]

You haven't looked into this very well, should remove the L from your name for that one. Smite 2 is free and a complete redesign in all the aspects that matter without damaging what makes it work.

[Raaban]

How is putting 20 years on engine upgrades into a game... 20 YEARS of Advancement in a game engine! anything similar to what Overwatch 1 -> Overwatch 2 did?

Smite 1 -> Smite 2 = 20 years of engine upgrades / Still a Free 2 play game
OW1 -> OW2 = 6 years of Engine difference / Paywall for upgrade

[Orbnotacus]

Originally posted by 🌴Raaban🌴:

How is putting 20 years on engine upgrades into a game... 20 YEARS of Advancement in a game engine! anything similar to what Overwatch 1 -> Overwatch 2 did?

Smite 1 -> Smite 2 = 20 years of engine upgrades / Still a Free 2 play game
OW1 -> OW2 = 6 years of Engine difference / Paywall for upgrade

Because the engine upgrades won't change any of the mechanics at all, just graphics. Like how with Overwatch, all they did was change the colors of some maps, something that some would consider... a graphical change, not a mechanical one. It's already been confirmed that it will ahve all the same gods plus some new ones, remastering the levels we already know, and adding a few new ones. Also seems to sound EXACTLY like what Overwatch did. All the same Heroes, I think 2 were changed at all, and a few new ones. Hmmm... I'm noticing a pattern...

[unfamous]

Originally posted by Orbnotacus:

Originally posted by 🌴Raaban🌴:

How is putting 20 years on engine upgrades into a game... 20 YEARS of Advancement in a game engine! anything similar to what Overwatch 1 -> Overwatch 2 did?

Smite 1 -> Smite 2 = 20 years of engine upgrades / Still a Free 2 play game
OW1 -> OW2 = 6 years of Engine difference / Paywall for upgrade

Because the engine upgrades won't change any of the mechanics at all, just graphics.

It might not change the mechanics explicitly, but engine upgrades will mean better stability and the possibility for better mechanics and new content like more unique god abilities to come out later.

[BillHicks]

Originally posted by Hollow-Enigma:

You haven't looked into this very well, should remove the L from your name for that one. Smite 2 is free and a complete redesign in all the aspects that matter without damaging what makes it work.

Damn where have I heard that before? hmmmmm😐

[Raaban]

Sound engine goes from 32 sounds to 128 with metasounds... That alone is not a Graphical but a worthy upgrade. Next its input handling.

[[82AD] Karvan]

I hope for the best but I still think this is gonna fail because the core audience is already rooted in smite 1 with all their skins and time/money spent. Even if Smite is an upgrade in engine, mechanics, animations or depth, people from League or dota2 are not going to leave their respective games and moba in general isn't exactly the most popular genre anymore.

I just don't see how smite 2 fits alongside smite 1. I think they should've done what OW2 did to a degree. Obviously not the paywall, but the engine upgrade, mechanic/map/game changes, character changes but transfer all skins across games for free.
Smite makes the bulk of it's money on skin sales and events, not god (pack) sales.

[maqira]

hahahah more like backfire

[L I G H T H O U S E]

Originally posted by Orbnotacus:

Originally posted by 🌴Raaban🌴:

How is putting 20 years on engine upgrades into a game... 20 YEARS of Advancement in a game engine! anything similar to what Overwatch 1 -> Overwatch 2 did?

Smite 1 -> Smite 2 = 20 years of engine upgrades / Still a Free 2 play game
OW1 -> OW2 = 6 years of Engine difference / Paywall for upgrade

Because the engine upgrades won't change any of the mechanics at all, just graphics. Like how with Overwatch, all they did was change the colors of some maps, something that some would consider... a graphical change, not a mechanical one. It's already been confirmed that it will ahve all the same gods plus some new ones, remastering the levels we already know, and adding a few new ones. Also seems to sound EXACTLY like what Overwatch did. All the same Heroes, I think 2 were changed at all, and a few new ones. Hmmm... I'm noticing a pattern...

The mechanics of the game are the game...It is like saying Fifa hasnt changed in 40 years because it is still just soccer and they haven't updated the rules.

It has the mechanics of a MOBA and that is what the players want. Players that play this game on a daily basis don't want them to completely revamp the game...

[Kickz]

Originally posted by 🌴Raaban🌴:

How is putting 20 years on engine upgrades into a game... 20 YEARS of Advancement in a game engine! anything similar to what Overwatch 1 -> Overwatch 2 did?

Smite 1 -> Smite 2 = 20 years of engine upgrades / Still a Free 2 play game
OW1 -> OW2 = 6 years of Engine difference / Paywall for upgrade

Just came across this looking at buying the founders edition and wanted to research how the game is different.

Didn't Smite release in 2014? How is that 20 years?
Sorry if I misunderstood.

[Mirai]

I literally don't understand what the point of this is, why is it being sold again? it literally looks the same. But it's supposed to be free? Why can't they just add the upgrades to Smite? why make a thing and call it Smite 2? Do the peoples gods transfer over from Smite 1? They also had a founders edition when it first came out or is everyone just going to have to buy their gods again? sounds like the old cash grab bs I see everywhere

[Raga]

Originally posted by {SoR} Blackfire1:

Putting a 2 =/= a sequal.
Helldivers 2 is a complete redesign of Helldivers 1. Thus is it a true sequel. It advances the tech and genre.

Overwatch 2? We all know it's Overwatch 1 locked behind a pay wall WE ALREADY PAID FOR.
So see Smite 2 not just head down the path but Naruto run into it like it's investing in HOA's.

Ignorant.. typical consumer who has 0 technical concept of the product he is buying.

[Raga]

Originally posted by Mirai:

I literally don't understand what the point of this is, why is it being sold again? it literally looks the same. But it's supposed to be free? Why can't they just add the upgrades to Smite? why make a thing and call it Smite 2? Do the peoples gods transfer over from Smite 1? They also had a founders edition when it first came out or is everyone just going to have to buy their gods again? sounds like the old cash grab bs I see everywhere

They have migrated to an entirely new engine.. so that the game will continue to grow and scale.. Please take some time to understand how big of a difference Unreal Engine 3 is compared to Unreal Engine 5 not to mention the significant amount of technical lift required to migrate. You can spend 20 minutes on youtube and become educated on this topic.

[Raaban]

Originally posted by Kickz:

Originally posted by 🌴Raaban🌴:

How is putting 20 years on engine upgrades into a game... 20 YEARS of Advancement in a game engine! anything similar to what Overwatch 1 -> Overwatch 2 did?

Smite 1 -> Smite 2 = 20 years of engine upgrades / Still a Free 2 play game
OW1 -> OW2 = 6 years of Engine difference / Paywall for upgrade

Just came across this looking at buying the founders edition and wanted to research how the game is different.

Didn't Smite release in 2014? How is that 20 years?
Sorry if I misunderstood.

Smite 1 runs on Unreal engine 3 that released in 2006, Smite 2 is Unreal engine 5.2 + released in 2024. And to be honest, you can just wait some months and it is free to play and try. Founder packs just secure you a place in the Alpha

[Elit3b3ast]

What is this paywall OW2 has? Heros are now free and they moved mythics to a shop (VERY EXPENSIVE) but you don't have to buy any of that stuff. OW2 has no paywall unless you can't resist buying skins.