25 Notoriety Points fow a WIN, minus 100 for a loss... WTF??

[JOHNNY GUEGGU]

I play mostly online tailing, usually get an average 25 points if I win. That would be OK, because tailing is easier than hacking, and should be less rewarding. However: If I LOOSE, I loose about 100-150 Points! It's ridiculous! 25 Points is the reward for tailing a Noob, skilled players give more points, but are RARE to come by, especially because you CAN NOT - different from Online Hacking - choose if you want to attack a skilled player (very strong) or a weak one.

That's like 4-6 WINS to compensate ONE LOSS!! Comon guys! I mean 2:1 would be fair, a challenge you know. Win 2 to compensate 1 loss. For a skilled player maybe 3:1. But I find it absolutely ridiculous that it'a 4:1 up to 6:1.

Another big mistake is "Gang hideouts" missions. I haven't finished one chapter in singleplayer campaign and I'm Level 50. Did all "Gang hideouts" as soon as I realized that there's a Skill point (or several) reward if successful. I at the beginning of the campaign and have a maxed out character. So I get bored, as ther is no challenge, play online mode and get in this mess with punishing penaltys (minus 100-180 Points) and unrewarding wins, 25 points. It's a decent game I guess, but it has its flaws.

[Ciqherroe]

Lose*

[Alpha]

Do an online hacking against a player with strong defense, which you can just decline until you get one, for more points.

[JOHNNY GUEGGU]

I think its .... paradox ;) .... to say Point A (Tailing) is broken. Go to Point B (Hacking) Changes nothing. A is still broken.

[Alpha]

For example I just got +600 for a hacking win. Tailing is much easier so with much less risk reward. And I just got +230 for a tailing win, so I'm not sure what the problem is.

[bulldog0890]

thats nothing, now the only contract i get are like 50 reward with 400 risk. basically if i lose once i delevel

[General Le Mao]

Your rewards for tailing go down as your tailing notoriety goes up. I almost always get 25 points for a successful invasion now. The extremely rare occasion I will get more, up to about 80. It's even worse when someone tails you in your game. I just spent over five minutes chasing down an online tailer and killing him and I got exactly FOUR points for the win. Yes, four.

[Dellers]

At this point tailing is ridiculous. It's at least as hard as hacking right now, so you have to keep the target in sight while they know almost exactly where you are.

I tricked this guy in the video into an area where I knew I'd win, but seriously. I'm supposed to be tailing HIM, yet he's following ME (he had followed me for almost two minutes when I started recording). In other places in the game against more skilled players tailing is just about impossible now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg30hnYifOA

Originally posted by Blas:

I just spent over five minutes chasing down an online tailer and killing him and I got exactly FOUR points for the win. Yes, four.

Lol, yeah. I've seen 4 points as well. 15 seems to be the usual for killing a player tailing me. If I end up in a car chase I end up with 0 points if I'm the one getting away or the one failing to catch up. I have to either hack, successfully tail or kill to get points now.