So I just completed the game. (Spoilers, enter at own risk)

[LionOfComarre]

I thoroughly enjoyed it, as I always do with Daedalic games, and I keep falling in love with the Dark Eye setting whenever they drag me back there. (My brother, who's a big adventure game fan, can't stand their games since they always tend to have bittersweet endings, but I think that just makes it more enjoyable).

Anyway, I'm curious as to what ending people picked first, and which they consider canonical, and more likely to be used as the base of any future game (if future ones will include Geron and Nuri at all, their story seems quite wrapped up to me). I saw both endings for the sake of getting the achievements, but I personally consider changing Nuri back to be the proper ending. Letting her stay as a raven doesn't really make sense to me. Geron promised her they'd leave Andergast and travel together anyway once she changed back, and I don't really see her losing her memory changing that. They'd just have to go through getting to know each other again. Also, wouldn't staying a raven mean her soul would eventually die and she'd become another raven, since she doesn't have a source of fairy magic any more? That's why her memory had degraded to that point in the first place, wasn't it? I don't see why it would stop there.

Anyway, that's just my two cents, I'm curious as to what you guys think.

[Efesell]

Gerons dialogue for when you opt to change her back shows a bit of unsettling selfishness to the decision, but I do think that it's the right move. Leaving her as a raven just does not sit right. It just doesn't seem like something she would have wanted before the idea was forced into the scenario by the memory loss.

On the rest of the ending, while I like the outcome I'm still kind of bummed that they repeated the "Okay games done" vibe. Even if its far better than the way Satinav did so.

[Kami]

Originally posted by Efesell:

Gerons dialogue for when you opt to change her back shows a bit of unsettling selfishness to the decision, but I do think that it's the right move.

Ok, so since this whole thread is a spoiler I won't bother with the spoiler tags. ;)

Definitely saw that selfishness, but my first ending was the raven's ending. :) Before getting to that last chapter I was expecting an ending with Bryda. She was getting close to Geron and Nuri was practically a raven already. Maybe I saw the story that way, because I never really liked Nuri. I don't like that sort of flimsy girl character, la la la flowers etc. The girl practically seemed demented to me. I thought Geron was dragging her after Satinav just out of guilt. And then Bryda appears, a normal girl who can take care of herself and doesn't need to be watched over 24/7 like a child or Nuri for that matter. I genuinely thought that the big decision would be between leaving Nuri as a raven and being with Bryda or changing Nuri back, just to get that first goal and nothing else really, since she already lost her memory. So I left her as a raven, but having no Bryda it seamed lacking something. Sort of a hollow ending, all that journey practically for nothing. Playing the second ending I was actually surprised how much better it is. Not as kitschy as I thought it would be. Although I was very surprised by what Geron said just after the decision, cause it was always Nuri, Nuri, for Nuri and then suddenly it's all just him.

But the ending with Sadja - that was my true ending and the best there was. I got to admit, I didn't even know why this game isn't all about her until that last chapter. For me, her story was the true story in this game and Geron was just along for the ride. But having said that, after playing through the last chapter I wouldn't change a thing in there. All of that Geron part, made her ending even better and I really liked the Staff. :)

[gerhard]

With Nuri forgetting more and more I felt that letting her go was the proper end for Gerons story.

What I wondered after finishing the game was how many endings there are. Do the choices when Sadjas story is being told make any difference too?

[LionOfComarre]

Not really as far as I can see. If you mess about too much Bryda takes over and finishes for you.

[Kami]

Bryda will take over even if you try to say the thing that she wants. ;)

[Charade]

Well, i also let her stay as a raven the first time around, seemed the right thing to do, but honestly, when you pick the other thing, Geron lets her know everything so basically her memory "comes back" anyway...which kinda makes it so that turning her back to Nuri is probably best. but..it's debatable

[Disona]

Such a great game. As perfect as CoS. I think turning Nuri back into human form is correct. It's what she wanted at the beginning of the game.

The Staff has Raven's voice, am I right?

[Sensical]

I let Nuri be a raven. That's only ending I've seen. Even before Nuri's memory loss set in, I felt she expressed a disinterest in returning to fairy life. Seemed like Geron was dragging her back to her old self, and she was rather enjoying the idea of her new raven self. By the end, I felt that filling in the past's blanks was okay, but outright changing details wasn't. So, through a skewed usage of the transitive property, I thought that altering details in the present tense was likewise less acceptable. Who knows.

[SvennaCirclet]

I let Nuri stay a raven because I was too impatient to see what happened with Sadja and the staff :x (then I replayed the ending to the see first one) I liked their story a lot more than the Geron/Nuri parts. I hope they make a sequel with Sadja.

[dmondark]

The way I understood it was that Nuri would eventually seize to be the talking, once-a-ferry raven and become yet another (mindless?) bird. And given that she'd only started enjoying flying when she started forgetting what she was, I've always thought it to be the "right" choice to turn her back. I too felt that Geron's "excuse" was the writers way of punishing me a little :)

Even though I thoroughly enjoyed the reveal, the very ending to Sadja's story took me by surprise, and I'm not sure I liked it as much as I liked the story.

At least now I understand why it was decided to make the mask's petrification spell work a bit differently than Halif's (when turning the ore adept into a crystal - ironically enough).

I like the vast majority of Daedalic's games. But to me this one sets a bar to a yet higher level. I actually applauded when the credits started rolling :D

[ShorteChange]

The voice actor for the Staff was brillant, and I really enjoyed the relationship betwen Sadja and the staff. I'm hopping that the open ending for Sadja's story means that there is going to be a sequel (triquel?)

[Lord Balen Blackwall]

I played out both endings, but the "Gift of Freedom" (Raven) ending sat best with me. The other ending made Geron out to be uncharacteristically selfish, at least for me. Having Nuri sit there while he drubs information into her...

[CynicalP]

I just finished the game with with my 9 year olf daughter. Excellent game. Very positve characters for girls to look up too.

I personally felt bad for condemning Bryda to death, really wish I could have saved her. She was a cool character. I felt the right path was to turn Nuri back to her natural form despite her memory loss. Geron's whole motivation was to transform Nuri back and it would have felt pointless just to let her remain as a raven. Didn't see the twist with Sadja character coming. It was awesome and it made me really appreciate her character even more. What a gritty and determine character she turned out to be. Both me and my daughter were confused what exactly happened to her did the staff's telling his version return her back to existence? She had a ghostly appearance to her perhaps he summoned her spirit. We weren't sure about it.

Overall a it was a great experience.

[LionOfComarre]

The staff telling the story made the story, that is, that she turned herself into a ruby, true. He then used his depetrify spell to turn her back.

[Tale]

Originally posted by Guybrush Threepwood:

The staff telling the story made the story, that is, that she turned herself into a ruby, true. He then used his depetrify spell to turn her back.

Everything fits both narratives except one little fact. What happened to Sadja's body? Bryda's story does not really have an answer for that. Halif's explanation is a little bit of a stretch.

With a little more analysis, Halif's explanation is more likely. Satinav should know whether or not Sadja was truly a princess or an illiterate commoner. That happened outside of the garden.