Camera spinning. Gamepad doesn't work.

[Nomado-Coyote]

Okay. To be clear, I don't even want to use my gamepad (I have a logitech f710), I just want my mouse and kb work properly. But the game behaves weirdly. Usually this type of behavior is handled with disconnecting or reconnecting a gamepad. This is not the case. Connected or disconnected (prior to a game's start or not) the spinning is still there. Also in-game it just doesn't work too, neither xinput nor dinput.
What else is weird about this, when I go to controls options the game auto-recognizes my "keyboard mappings" as a controller and puts all kind of gamepad bindings in there (even if my gamepad is disconnected). Couple of times I randomly had usual keyboard bindings appear there instead and I set it up as I wanted, so they work, but it may help you to know that most of the time it shows me gamepad bindings in there instead of keyboard.
This is SO random. And the spinning... ugh.
p.s. I also tried deleting config folder, no use.

[Larry]

Hi Nomado-Coyote - Can you give us some info, such as the OS you are running?

We aren't familiar with that particular controller but I wonder if any of its programmable keyboard and mouse settings are interfering with your keyboard/mouse's normal operation. I wonder if you can disable the actual driver of the f710 along with unplugging it?

[Nomado-Coyote]

Yep that can be true, I have a Razer Tartarus (with Synapse) plugged in all the time. I planned to use it for Betrayer as well. That may be true, and my mouse is programmable too, but it's been pretty buggy lately (logitech's software acts up).
I'm on w8 x64. The gamepad is pretty much identical to f310 just wireless (these logitech ones are pretty popular).
Do you mean disable driver as just a disable, without uninstallation? Temporarily? From a device manager?

[Larry]

I read some reviews of it while trying to think what might be causing this and it seems there are some issues with Win 8 and 8.1. I have an F310 and it works great, but there are not any drivers needed for it, at least in Win 7.

Yeah, rather than un-installing it, maybe try a more temporary move by disabling it in the device manager. Sorry this is happening to you but sometimes all of these programmable devices that mimic other devices can be a bit like pissing-in-the-wind, if you'll pardon the expression.

[Nomado-Coyote]

Haha yeah I totally get it and you can't possibly account all of them in development, especially without user feedback on them. So I'll try to find the source of this then, I think it may be Tartarus though, but we'll see.

[Larry]

Okay, let us know what you find. I wonder if that Tartarus AND the F710 are conspiring against us since they're both running drivers that do some keyboard work.

[Nomado-Coyote]

So uh yeah, I tested things. I tried disabling both drivers and disconnecting devices as well. Then I tried closing all the extra software from the tray, all the logitech and razer stuff too. all the way to bare bones. Nothing helped. Seriously just nothing. I even turned off my wireless keyboard that I use frequently. So I don't know, my guesses is that I have a lot of drivers for different stuff. I don't remember if I connected other gamepads to this system but I don't think I see drivers for them and they are not plugged in. Though Logitech installed some virtual-keyboard and virtual-mouse drivers as a necessity while installing mouse drivers. I did not disable them yet. And also I have an old zboard keyboard which has it's own drivers too (though it uses steelseries engine now). I don't know, what's my bet? Disable all controls related drivers lol? Like try another mouse or something? This is kinda weird, problems exactly like this usually were solved in a minute, but not this time.
Oh I'm also on a notebook and I thought maybe it has something to do with a touchpad. Well simply fn-disabling it didn't help either. I'm kind of out of guesses. Do we have some log or something that I can send you and that could help?

[Larry]

That is quite a few devices! The game is fairly simple and takes what Windows gives it so if there is any corrupted data or noise coming in, the game won't resolve it like an operating system. If it were me, I'd probably do some cleaning up of old overlapping drivers. Sadly, it is all I can recommend at this point.

[Nomado-Coyote]

Thing is most of the drivers, if not all, are needed for my connected devices, the system isn't really that old and doesn't need much cleaning honestly. That's why I thought that I could just try disabling most of them to see if that even resolve the problem. I have a hunch this may be not the culprit at all. But I'll probably try to fiddle with the input devices. Could midi devices be of a problem to this at all?

[Nomado-Coyote]

Ok I finally figured it out. God bless the generalizeted google search and various games' steam forums :D
Anyway the problem was "HID-compliant game controller". It's just I stumbled into the same spinning problem today on another game that I played about a month ago and it was good so I started digging again. Figured I have way too many HID devices drivers and it has to be the case. And it was. But just this one game controller (wish I knew what this exact one driver is).
It's working good now.

[Larry]

Glad to hear you got it working!