why this Game hates healer/support

[Arjel]

i am a 4300 cp Wand/Staff with 1400 hrs on the game i switch from DPS to Healer just because i always prefered healer and the healer on our team already quit.

1st is that healers dont get assist on buffing and or healing does you wont be able to climb the Kill record Ranking and dps can kill anyone in a large scale pvp and your not able to use all of your ability to any one outside of your party

2nd is that you will not get drops from Field Bosses because you will not be able to increase your contribution and just increase the contibution of your partymates thus make it more difficult to obtain any drop (when i was a dps i was able to get some loots from field bosses) and bosses die really quickly that heals doesnt matter to most of the bosses and so your stuck on farming on 1star and 2 star dungeon there will be no luck on getting boss weapons to accelerate your farming.

3rd is Arena 3 in 3 is also not for healers 1st is that Heals are nerf @ arena 2nd is that the amount of -healing reduction making you wait 6 secs before you heal someone thus instead of battling 1 is to 1 player its going to be 2 is to 1 in most of the situation. its fun when the enemy team is bad but if its even(all player are good) you will just lose most of the time. its just a better to have 2dps to burst down someone before the healer can actually heal.

if your new and or want to change healer so you can fill a role in your guild/friend group you will play a class thats wearing a ball in chain to progress

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[Boink]

Originally posted by Arjel:

Be a DPS is the solution?

Yes.

The amount of "heals" you do with Peace Worldboss is almost insignificant with the given amount of time it is alive.

Most of your HARD DPS rotations cooldowns are "enough" contribution with the given amount of time including damage buffs deadly marker x 2 + Jaunice Rage.

I qualified a lot of a dps healer regardless it is wand/bow or staff/wand as in getting loot (counting blues) but yes I have over 50+ Epic drops from World Bosses.

I'm a dex build healer btw. I can see the problem with STR / Perception builds not getting enough heals including sadly DPS with almost every single content in-game. But it provides other values mainly survival. Wisdom + Dex builds are the highest heals in-game.

Originally posted by ☣ Vyke ☣:

wand/staff is the biggest troll build. its a hybrid build. dont talk about healer if you not play wand/bow

Originally posted by miszczu2:

1. you are not real healer, like Vyke said real heal is wand/bow

Is this a recent trend on Reddit or something? I play both i don't see a BIG differential outside practical H.O.T.S and shield. What Bow/wand lacks off is mobility and pull skill sets. Both are useful in PvP and PvE content.

The only reason I bring Bow/Wand is when again if my team members are undergeared or my guildie want to spam Flash Wave and Tornado. The real reason why it is a "preferred" healer is because of Deadly Marker x 2 to push DPS... which doesn't make it a "better healer".

[deepgreenbear]

Saying that it "hates" healers and support seems a bit over the top. A better UI for healing would be welcome, something more like "healbot" the add on for WoW would be nice. It would also be nice to have fewer one shot mechanics in instances (I know, gear makes this much better) but it's at the lower end that healing should really shine.

In general, I like the boss fight design but perhaps tone down the insta kills so there is something to heal through and offer a healer interface "mode" and it should be pretty solid. My 2 cents, cheers!

[⸸Dark_Rev3rend ReC⸸ <1n n0m1ne p]

People with no life and 2k hours or even more in t&l and 3.5k Gs say "Learn 2 play" or say
There is no Problem with Healer, only skill Issue. Best Joke ive ever read was "you could take 4 dps as healer", but i dont know if its maybe Sarcasm of this dude - i dont know

Lady and Gentleman,
I want to say this kind of People are the Main problem of every Mmorpg or MMO. After this come bad balance and no Content. This People are most time Jobless in Guild full of Jobless other People ruining the Game for everyone who want to have fun.

@Arjel: we got you <3 healer and Tank Classes in this Game are incredible bad designed.

[Boink]

Originally posted by ⸸Dark_Rev3rend ReC⸸ <1n n0m1ne p:

People with no life and 2k hours or even more in t&l and 3.5k Gs say "Learn 2 play" or say
There is no Problem with Healer, only skill Issue. Best Joke ive ever read was "you could take 4 dps as healer", but i dont know if its maybe Sarcasm of this dude - i dont know

Lady and Gentleman,
I want to say this kind of People are the Main problem of every Mmorpg or MMO. After this come bad balance and no Content. This People are most time Jobless in Guild full of Jobless other People ruining the Game for everyone who want to have fun.

@Arjel: we got you <3 healer and Tank Classes in this Game are incredible bad designed.

The real problem are people who think their playstyle is perfect. No opportunity to grow nor reflect with their mistakes.

Originally posted by ⸸Dark_Rev3rend ReC⸸ <1n n0m1ne p:

PVP is only about who is stunning first, as Healer you have no chance to do anything.. you get killed within 2 or 3sec.

Originally posted by ⸸Dark_Rev3rend ReC⸸ <1n n0m1ne p:

Just stop playing Healer with randoms. Its not fun. If the most of use stop playing Healer, maybe they learn.

Ladies and Gentlemen,

A classic tale of I play so good, it is the game's fault not me.

You are the only healer I know that dies 2-3 seconds EVERY fight and poss zero chance to stay alive. There are many explanations: Lack of inputs pressing Q or F1-F4 for Purification Stone, no gear, or just lack any in-game sense, awareness, Monitor not plugged in, Keyboard. A lot of explanations here, not because the wand is bad. People play it for a long time, because it is a good weapon. There is also a reason why many players told you how wand is OP.

The real problem I see here are people with big EGO. They go to forums spam about their class being subjected to bad design. Where the real culprit is really close by.

[⸸Dark_Rev3rend ReC⸸ <1n n0m1ne p]

Originally posted by Boink:

Originally posted by ⸸Dark_Rev3rend ReC⸸ <1n n0m1ne p:

People with no life and 2k hours or even more in t&l and 3.5k Gs say "Learn 2 play" or say
There is no Problem with Healer, only skill Issue. Best Joke ive ever read was "you could take 4 dps as healer", but i dont know if its maybe Sarcasm of this dude - i dont know

Lady and Gentleman,
I want to say this kind of People are the Main problem of every Mmorpg or MMO. After this come bad balance and no Content. This People are most time Jobless in Guild full of Jobless other People ruining the Game for everyone who want to have fun.

@Arjel: we got you <3 healer and Tank Classes in this Game are incredible bad designed.

The real problem are people who think their playstyle is perfect. No opportunity to grow nor reflect with their mistakes.

Originally posted by ⸸Dark_Rev3rend ReC⸸ <1n n0m1ne p:

PVP is only about who is stunning first, as Healer you have no chance to do anything.. you get killed within 2 or 3sec.

Originally posted by ⸸Dark_Rev3rend ReC⸸ <1n n0m1ne p:

Just stop playing Healer with randoms. Its not fun. If the most of use stop playing Healer, maybe they learn.

Ladies and Gentlemen,
There is no healer dies 2-3 seconds EVERY fight and has no chance, whatsover. Lack of inputs pressing Q or F1-F4 for Purification Stone, no gear, or just lack any in-game sense, awareness, whatsoever. That is the real problem. They go to forums spam about their class being subjected to bad design. Where the real culprit is really close by.

Ok, you hit every Q block and dodge every Mechanic mr Perfect? For you its Ok to get kicked out of the group because you hit one time not q block? What with People who play boss first time and try their best, even when they watch yt to learn mech?

The Problem is you, you want everyone to be perfect, even Casuals, Moms and dads, full time worker or everyone, who only want to have fun and dont have time to be perfect in a Game.
Big News - No, not everyone has to be perfect only because you want to rush thorugh Dungeon in seconds.
Games are for everyone, even if they are bad.. they invest the same amount of money and effort, to play this Game. Without this peoples Money and effort Games like this would not exist and if this people leave, Games will die

You can Choose, give this people Chance and help them or be egoist and only see the own effort till the Game will die.

[Boink]

Originally posted by ⸸Dark_Rev3rend ReC⸸ <1n n0m1ne p:

The Problem is you, you want everyone to be perfect, even Casuals, Moms and dads, full time worker or everyone, who only want to have fun and dont have time to be perfect in a Game.
Big News - No, not everyone has to be perfect only because you want to rush thorugh Dungeon in seconds.
Games are for everyone, even if they are bad.. they invest the same amount of money and effort, to play this Game. Without this peoples Money and effort Games like this would not exist and if this people leave, Games will die

You can Choose, give this people Chance and help them or be egoist and only see the own effort till the Game will die.

LOL what? I told them how wand works and how you got to this conclusion that I play perfectly? or full of EGO?

You can press Purification Stone that cleanse the CC, it also has a built in heals, then Q block. The next attack will more likely be stun or bind. Then reposition? how difficult is that?

Do I even had the chance to play with you? I don't play in EU. Is this language barrier?

I did help them. Have you?

[Arjel]

Originally posted by miszczu2:

1. you are not real healer, like Vyke said real heal is wand/bow
2. healers don't care about kills and no one expect kills from them
3. Most of good guilds take care about their healers and pick right world/guild bosses so they can gear up a healer.

Good healer is irreplaceable and many people writes appreciation after dung or pvp

this is a noob answer. staff has alot of support skills petrify, hook, cd/damage buff, a higher heal input because of the passive also has a good mana regen and a mobility.

bow has flash wave, tornado and an extra heal with endurance and shield

im not saying 1 is better than the other, im saying both can support efficiently

healers dont care about kills true, but i think all not only dps wants to climb the ladder. if you tell me the ladder doesnt matter then why give a kill/assist in the 1st place.

good guilds do take care of all of its member

healers are needed yes but the point is that being a support holds your progression back.

my swift healing is 5-8k so ithink im not a bad healer may be not the best but im good at it

[Arjel]

world bosses(peace) - play DPS if you don't you will not get any loot

contract/token burn - play DPS

night pvp - if you want PVP points play DPS support skills dont give Assist points.
Dominion - same as the above and or you need dps to kill mobs

1 star Dungeon/2 star Dungeon - at this point of the game play DPS with 1 or 2 heals to speed up the run

castle seige/tax war - Play full support and youll not get points for the ladder and have no stats in the recap which is fine but i bet most of you check how many kills you got which is a rewarding feeling

Guild war - same no points in pvp

high level Trial Dungeon is the only activity that you can full support that will not have a negative gain(lost of pvp points and lost of loots)

full support is being punish by the game

[DaRocknessMonsta]

we hate you, because you cant heal