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why this Game hates healer/support
i am a 4300 cp Wand/Staff with 1400 hrs on the game i switch from DPS to Healer just because i always prefered healer and the healer on our team already quit.

1st is that healers dont get assist on buffing and or healing does you wont be able to climb the Kill record Ranking and dps can kill anyone in a large scale pvp and your not able to use all of your ability to any one outside of your party

2nd is that you will not get drops from Field Bosses because you will not be able to increase your contribution and just increase the contibution of your partymates thus make it more difficult to obtain any drop (when i was a dps i was able to get some loots from field bosses) and bosses die really quickly that heals doesnt matter to most of the bosses and so your stuck on farming on 1star and 2 star dungeon there will be no luck on getting boss weapons to accelerate your farming.

3rd is Arena 3 in 3 is also not for healers 1st is that Heals are nerf @ arena 2nd is that the amount of -healing reduction making you wait 6 secs before you heal someone thus instead of battling 1 is to 1 player its going to be 2 is to 1 in most of the situation. its fun when the enemy team is bad but if its even(all player are good) you will just lose most of the time. its just a better to have 2dps to burst down someone before the healer can actually heal.

if your new and or want to change healer so you can fill a role in your guild/friend group you will play a class thats wearing a ball in chain to progress
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xe3dam Jan 16 @ 5:40am 
totally agree. healrs need to be more stronger.
agree im a healer in every MMORPG and this game is torture for healers, I only play healer this long because of our guild desperately in need of healer without expecting to get anything rewarding and constantly being targeted almost everyone in the server each guild marked me as feud. i love this game but I really hope AGS can do better
Neo Jan 16 @ 7:45pm 
healer mmo veteran here... Mained heals in wow for 13 years, and every other mmo i've ever played. Swapped to dps in T&L last month and it's been pure bliss. The healer experience in this game is abysmal and you covered most of the points.

What's also annoying is when you're running dungeons and everyone speed runs, pulls every single mob and only focuses the main mob you need to kill to progress to the final boss, which leaves 25 mobs now focusing on you the healer while the party completely ignores them for 10 minutes while they follow you to the end of the dungeon.

Oh and healers always being the main target in pvp, which is hell with the reduced healing debuffs. it's just entirely pointless to play healer in this game, completely unrewarding.
Originally posted by Neo:
healer mmo veteran here... Mained heals in wow for 13 years, and every other mmo i've ever played. Swapped to dps in T&L last month and it's been pure bliss. The healer experience in this game is abysmal and you covered most of the points.

What's also annoying is when you're running dungeons and everyone speed runs, pulls every single mob and only focuses the main mob you need to kill to progress to the final boss, which leaves 25 mobs now focusing on you the healer while the party completely ignores them for 10 minutes while they follow you to the end of the dungeon.

Oh and healers always being the main target in pvp, which is hell with the reduced healing debuffs. it's just entirely pointless to play healer in this game, completely unrewarding.
as a bow staff player most of the time in dungeons i heal my self , sometimes if we get smart enough players they just pull mobs inside the healers circle heal so it depends of a party members and how smart they are. But most of the time yeah they just agro every single mob for no reason i dont understand this
Cheslock Jan 17 @ 12:43am 
If you think healers are weak you are delusional, they are unkillable gods that can be attacked by 4 dps and still survive.

If you build right attacking a healer over any dps is a waste people shouldnt target you ever because you can survive forever.
Last edited by Cheslock; Jan 17 @ 12:45am
Doowie Jan 17 @ 12:57am 
Sounds like the people saying healers need to be stronger are those who have a skill issue.

The healing in the game IF done correctly and you have the right gear & spec, you can never kill a healer.

So as the good old saying goes... "Learn 2 Play!".
Last edited by Doowie; Jan 17 @ 12:57am
Arjel Jan 17 @ 1:32am 
Originally posted by Cheslock:
If you think healers are weak you are delusional, they are unkillable gods that can be attacked by 4 dps and still survive.

If you build right attacking a healer over any dps is a waste people shouldnt target you ever because you can survive forever.

i didnt say healers are weak. but thinking healers are unkillable is delusional if theres 4ppl with similar CP using prone and debuff is impossible. the only way a healer can survive that if the 4ppl have their skills on CD and its not a 1 v 4 situation
point 1: who gives a ♥♥♥♥, you're a healer, you are not collecting kills.
2: false, they changed it, drop chances are just low either way.
3: false, healers are literally a make or break in a match, if your opponent has a healer and you don't gg, game over.
you make problems out of issues that don't exist, stop looking at everything negatively, healers are one of the strongest classes to play.
Boink Jan 17 @ 5:15am 
I am healer with over 50+ World Boss drops (still no archboss weapon drop)

All I can say is that you don't need a lot of heal skill sets with bosses (outside conflict). You need 1 big heal and maybe more if you are up against Archboss and your teammates are below 3.5k cp.

Most of your heals are from Vampiric. So the harder you hit the more heals you do. So most of my skill set is hard dps with Vampiric Contract.

Also if you are in a high population you get lower frequency with the "1st" epic drop since it is a guarantee. So if you have 20 players fighting the boss you have a higher frequency of getting it compared to 100+.
istrador78 (Banned) Jan 17 @ 12:54pm 
its ♥♥♥♥ like amazon thats why
Arjel Jan 17 @ 10:45pm 
Originally posted by StarlightAsh♡:
point 1: who gives a ♥♥♥♥, you're a healer, you are not collecting kills.
2: false, they changed it, drop chances are just low either way.
3: false, healers are literally a make or break in a match, if your opponent has a healer and you don't gg, game over.
you make problems out of issues that don't exist, stop looking at everything negatively, healers are one of the strongest classes to play.

1st assist matters in the ranking so yeah,
2nd Field bosses die so fast that supporting doesnt really have contribution
3rd if its an uneven match sure you'll runover people, but with both teams are in high ranking team with no healer/support have more dps, CC's , debuff jumping you or bursting someone in your team in ARENA so yeah. feels like you have no clue playing a healer/support
Arjel Jan 17 @ 10:46pm 
Originally posted by Boink:
I am healer with over 50+ World Boss drops (still no archboss weapon drop)

All I can say is that you don't need a lot of heal skill sets with bosses (outside conflict). You need 1 big heal and maybe more if you are up against Archboss and your teammates are below 3.5k cp.

Most of your heals are from Vampiric. So the harder you hit the more heals you do. So most of my skill set is hard dps with Vampiric Contract.

Also if you are in a high population you get lower frequency with the "1st" epic drop since it is a guarantee. So if you have 20 players fighting the boss you have a higher frequency of getting it compared to 100+.

Be a DPS is the solution?
If you think healer is weak don't play tank, Tanks are a joke in this game.
Pocket Jan 20 @ 1:31pm 
wand/staff is the biggest troll build. its a hybrid build. dont talk about healer if you not play wand/bow
miszczu2 Jan 20 @ 7:13pm 
1. you are not real healer, like Vyke said real heal is wand/bow
2. healers don't care about kills and no one expect kills from them
3. Most of good guilds take care about their healers and pick right world/guild bosses so they can gear up a healer.

Good healer is irreplaceable and many people writes appreciation after dung or pvp
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Date Posted: Jan 16 @ 5:03am
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