I see game gone route of making healers unkillable gods like many MMORPGs do.

[Fox Tail]

How is it fair that a healer can go from 1k HP almost dead to full 13k HP with 1 heal skill while also suffering from a debuff that reduces their healing received by 60% and only using a blue healing wand on top of it? I got nothing wrong with making healers good at their class but this guy running around with a bow and a wand doing decent DPS while making himself and everyone around him unkillable. Shouldn't need 10 people to zerg 1 healer to kill them before they can cast 1 skill that just bad game design.

[Luke]

skills issue ( also game is trash )

[Fr0st <('o'<) (>‘o’)>]

these posts are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ me up, no, nothing of what he said is true, I am a healer, 2600, f2p, and I assure you that there is NO way to raise your life from 1 k to 13 with 1 skill, in fact, not even with the 3 instant heals you have, and I go with 4 epics and all +9, plus the 2 epic weapons.
Your problem is clearly a hand problem, and you will be playing against people who know what they are doing, and will have paid to have top stuff.
But hey, what can you expect from 1 post of a guy crying with an anime picture, and you will be over 30

[MadEagle]

2600 free 2 play also ich bin auf 2400 aber wenn du mehr zeit hast als ich, läuft bei dir mächtig was falsch # traurig

[jey123456]

the closest i can think off, would be combining the passive that increase incoming heal when being hit by skills combined with the passive that increase heal when hit by heal, cranking it up with the heal circle, and then drinking a 2400hp potion which end up healing you for about 8k.

[MadEagle]

vor allem überleben heiler im normalfall nichtmal eine stun combo was willst du da heilen? :/

[Kyutaru]

Originally posted by Fr0st <('o'<) (>‘o’)>:

these posts are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ me up, no, nothing of what he said is true, I am a healer, 2600, f2p, and I assure you that there is NO way to raise your life from 1 k to 13 with 1 skill, in fact, not even with the 3 instant heals you have, and I go with 4 epics and all +9, plus the 2 epic weapons.

You actually can. Since you're f2p, you probably don't have your traits up yet. Crits and Heavy hits apply to healing too so you can deal double healing as well as critical healing. My normal heals reach up to 2800 without proccing heavy hits. When I do get a heavy heal, it's massive. Also, my wand is the world boss wand that procs an additional heal when the target is below 40%. I regularly fully people from near dead just with Swift Healing alone.

TL:DR -- invest in Heavy/Crit traits and max your Healing passives.

[Core]

Originally posted by Fox Tail:

bow and a wand
doing decent DPS

LMAO, no.
bow and wand is the weakest dps in the game, after only SnS wand. It's the one spec that's all in on healing and doing nothing else.

[Elemoir]

Originally posted by Fox Tail:

How is it fair that a healer can go from 1k HP almost dead to full 13k HP with 1 heal skill while also suffering from a debuff that reduces their healing received by 60% and only using a blue healing wand on top of it? I got nothing wrong with making healers good at their class but this guy running around with a bow and a wand doing decent DPS while making himself and everyone around him unkillable. Shouldn't need 10 people to zerg 1 healer to kill them before they can cast 1 skill that just bad game design.

Nonsense, not only is none of what you said actually based in any form of truth whatsoever, healing builds are also the ones with the least amount of DPS potential, and the game is designed to also heavily punish their lack of such very heavily. If anything, healing builds should be buffed to put them up par with all the other ones.

[Munted]

Originally posted by Kyutaru:

Originally posted by Fr0st <('o'<) (>‘o’)>:

these posts are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ me up, no, nothing of what he said is true, I am a healer, 2600, f2p, and I assure you that there is NO way to raise your life from 1 k to 13 with 1 skill, in fact, not even with the 3 instant heals you have, and I go with 4 epics and all +9, plus the 2 epic weapons.

You actually can. Since you're f2p, you probably don't have your traits up yet. Crits and Heavy hits apply to healing too so you can deal double healing as well as critical healing. My normal heals reach up to 2800 without proccing heavy hits. When I do get a heavy heal, it's massive. Also, my wand is the world boss wand that procs an additional heal when the target is below 40%. I regularly fully people from near dead just with Swift Healing alone.

TL:DR -- invest in Heavy/Crit traits and max your Healing passives.

You were probably talking more generally but you should consider OP's post before engaging.

He said the healer had a blue wand and -60% healing received debuff on them yet still healed over 10k in one hit. That's 25k+ in one hit without the debuff. Even if he meant all 3 procs of Swift, it isn't feasible.

OP is clearly exaggerating, which probably means he was exaggerating about everything else, and in all honestly, probably just making it all up.

[Fox Tail]

Originally posted by Core:

Originally posted by Fox Tail:

bow and a wand
doing decent DPS

LMAO, no.
bow and wand is the weakest dps in the game, after only SnS wand. It's the one spec that's all in on healing and doing nothing else.

Not going get kills with it sure, but still have skills that be hitting for 3-6k depending on crits every 12-24s while also being a unkillable god with your full HP heals from 1 skills. Wand this game actually broken. I've heard talks about it taking literally whole zergs to kill 1 guy playing SnS with Wand I can see why this is now true. Combine tankness of SnS with OP healing of wand and you basically die when you decide to die, and people attacking you are just fly wasting their time even trying. This ♥♥♥♥ reminds me of Archeage were top players in ranked Area were healers cause again another game were healers can just press 1 button and be back at full HP even if their healing being debuffed by 30 to even 70%.

[Fox Tail]

Originally posted by Kyutaru:

Originally posted by Fr0st <('o'<) (>‘o’)>:

these posts are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ me up, no, nothing of what he said is true, I am a healer, 2600, f2p, and I assure you that there is NO way to raise your life from 1 k to 13 with 1 skill, in fact, not even with the 3 instant heals you have, and I go with 4 epics and all +9, plus the 2 epic weapons.

You actually can. Since you're f2p, you probably don't have your traits up yet. Crits and Heavy hits apply to healing too so you can deal double healing as well as critical healing. My normal heals reach up to 2800 without proccing heavy hits. When I do get a heavy heal, it's massive. Also, my wand is the world boss wand that procs an additional heal when the target is below 40%. I regularly fully people from near dead just with Swift Healing alone.

TL:DR -- invest in Heavy/Crit traits and max your Healing passives.

And considering how crit, and heavy evasion for healing doesn't actual do anything against this yes a 700 crit chance/ heavy attack chance healer can almost always prop those crit double heals. This really is just horrible game design. Amount of MMOs I've play that make healers this OP is retarded, healers should need use their brain to stay alive in PVP fights, and whole kit to bring someone back from near death, not this BS press 1 button and completely immune to death ♥♥♥♥. I was in shadow crypt the other day guy taunting me that I'll never kill him got him down to literally 5% of his HP left and he stands up from my CC while suffering from a 60% heal debuff and just cast 1 skill boom back to full HP. I saw that ♥♥♥♥ and just walked away ♥♥♥♥ fighting unkillable healers.

People telling me I'm wrong clearly just don't know their own kit yet or how stats work in this game. But explains why I still see so many trash healers in Arena PVP that only do 10k healing in a 5 minute match, but know your fighting a good one when he healed himself and team for over 200k HP and keep his whole team from dying once by himself.

[Skillo]

Originally posted by Fr0st <('o'<) (>‘o’)>:

these posts are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ me up, no, nothing of what he said is true, I am a healer, 2600, f2p, and I assure you that there is NO way to raise your life from 1 k to 13 with 1 skill, in fact, not even with the 3 instant heals you have, and I go with 4 epics and all +9, plus the 2 epic weapons.
Your problem is clearly a hand problem, and you will be playing against people who know what they are doing, and will have paid to have top stuff.
But hey, what can you expect from 1 post of a guy crying with an anime picture, and you will be over 30

You can heal to full with a few casts of quick healing, as long as you cast blessed barrier beforehand.

[zalan21]

let's look at it another way: a well organized group kills a healer in less than 10 seconds, no way to run or no time to fight. give you one hint: well timed silence then stuns hurt them real hard.

[Fox Tail]

Originally posted by zalan21:

let's look at it another way: a well organized group kills a healer in less than 10 seconds, no way to run or no time to fight. give you one hint: well timed silence then stuns hurt them real hard.

And if he doesn't die and still has even 1% HP left when the CCs stop poof press 1 button back to max HP loser. Bad game design, shouldn't need a zerg to kill 1 guy also bad game design. I get locking down healers in these games, but that no reason a healer should be this strong. Plus you act like the healer going play like a bot and just stand there letting you CC them the whole fight. Their going pop anti CC skills, dodges, blocks, dmg shields etc.

Even makes the dungeons brain dead easy. I always wondered why I felt zero threat from boss and why could just forget to block their high dmg AOE skills they spam, it cause healers can literally easily heal everyone to full HP with the press of 1 or 2 buttons. There no reason for this, people shouldn't just be allowed to ignore boss mechanics because a healer makes everyone unkillable to everything but the 1 shot mechanics. I can literally pull aggro from mobs in an entire dungeon and the healer can keep everyone alive just fine, the tank doesn't even need to taunt or hold aggro as 50 dungeon mobs are attacking the group. Hell whole tank role in dungeons is completely pointless no need for someone to even hold aggro just get 5 DPS and a healer and you'll clear any dungeon easily.

I haven't even touch large scale PVP, but I already see top guilds are wanting everyone to be wearing a wand during large scale PVP fights. Can't lose if you can't die.

[zalan21]

Originally posted by Fox Tail:

Originally posted by zalan21:

let's look at it another way: a well organized group kills a healer in less than 10 seconds, no way to run or no time to fight. give you one hint: well timed silence then stuns hurt them real hard.

And if he doesn't die and still has even 1% HP left when the CCs stop poof press 1 button back to max HP loser. Bad game design, shouldn't need a zerg to kill 1 guy also bad game design. I get locking down healers in these games, but that no reason a healer should be this strong. Plus you act like the healer going play like a bot and just stand there letting you CC them the whole fight. Their going pop anti CC skills, dodges, blocks, dmg shields etc.

I'll give you another hint: what is the number one strategy before starting the fight especially in gvg ? answer: demolish and destroy the backline and the first one is the healer. those dps tanks like gs dag have access to mobility, silence, and stuns. remember even if you didn't kill them right away and they are running around being chase all the time they got occupied because of survival problem, the chaser skills are coming off cool downs and they will try aggressively to attack again, doing this in circle their group will slowly dies.