Arena - BG queue

[forumcrybaby]

Don't force pve people to pvp idc. Just give me arena and bg queue. NW flopped on this idea and added arenas after the game died. Why is it so hard for the modern MMO dev to add a decent arena or BG queue?

[Eido]

Originally posted by brs:

Don't force pve people to pvp idc. Just give me arena and bg queue. NW flopped on this idea and added arenas after the game died. Why is it so hard for the modern MMO dev to add a decent arena or BG queue?

I have a better idea why there is any interaction between players in MMO games, wouldn't it be better to turn them into pure single player titles? Then there would be no problem with P2W and PvP
Btw.
I don't see any MMO games on your account, only single-player strategies

[forumcrybaby]

Originally posted by Eido:

Originally posted by brs:

Don't force pve people to pvp idc. Just give me arena and bg queue. NW flopped on this idea and added arenas after the game died. Why is it so hard for the modern MMO dev to add a decent arena or BG queue?

I have a better idea why there is any interaction between players in MMO games, wouldn't it be better to turn them into pure single player titles? Then there would be no problem with P2W and PvP
Btw.
I don't see any MMO games on your account, only single-player strategies

There are no MMOs worth playing anymore but whichever one I did play was downloaded from their own launchers.

[Rex Smashington]

New World died because the combat is awful. Gathering and crafting are always given as examples of the best part of New World because the combat is that bad.

Instanced PVP had nothing to do with it's failure.

And there is no forced PVP in Throne and Liberty. Learn about the game through their many promo videos or description on the website before you post. There is scheduled PVP in certain zones only at certain times of day. If you don't want to PVP between 11 - 11:30am just go to a different zone for 30 minutes.

Everything isn't about you 24/7. Other people are allowed to enjoy the game as well.

[forumcrybaby]

Originally posted by Rex Smashington:

New World died because the combat is awful. Gathering and crafting are always given as examples of the best part of New World because the combat is that bad.

Instanced PVP had nothing to do with it's failure.

And there is no forced PVP in Throne and Liberty. Learn about the game through their many promo videos or description on the website before you post. There is scheduled PVP in certain zones only at certain times of day. If you don't want to PVP between 11 - 11:30am just go to a different zone for 30 minutes.

Everything isn't about you 24/7. Other people are allowed to enjoy the game as well.

what a silly comment but I understand that reading comprehension is hard for uneducated people who live on their computers. I am not saying there is forced PVP. People are complaining there is less PVP now and I am asking for arena and BG queues on top of whatever opwpvp there is.

[Eido]

Even if there were to be an OP PvP game with a flag and pk system, would sigle player and PvE fanatics cry for so long that the publisher would give up? or rather it would be done by shareholders who only care about money

[forumcrybaby]

Originally posted by Eido:

Even if there were to be an OP PvP game with a flag and pk system, would sigle player and PvE fanatics cry for so long that the publisher would give up? or rather it would be done by shareholders who only care about money

This why bg and arena is good because we can pvp and not have to listen to them complain

[Eido]

Originally posted by brs:

Originally posted by Eido:

Even if there were to be an OP PvP game with a flag and pk system, would sigle player and PvE fanatics cry for so long that the publisher would give up? or rather it would be done by shareholders who only care about money

This why bg and arena is good because we can pvp and not have to listen to them complain

And what's the point of fighting in the arena? I don't see any point in it at all, in Lost Ark you have the arena, I played there maybe 10 times. There was no fun in it, fighting for nothing, with no gain or loss, just like I won't understand PvE players, just like they won't understand PvP players. If there is no competition between players in OP PVP, it might not exist at all. It's like with athletes who only measured against their own records and not against others, would anyone watch sports then? It's like watching volleyball, football, hockey, basketball, where there would be no two teams facing each other, but an empty net where what mattered was who would score the most points in a given time. I don't think anyone would want to watch it, but direct competition with each other is interesting, even in everyday life we do it....

[Prince Tulip]

Open world pvp is the most fun you can have in a MMO, people who want to gather and kill braindead mobs all the time should go play minecraft or something. Or they should implement something like a karma system in which if you kill players bellow a certain lvl you get negative debuffs.

[Rex Smashington]

Originally posted by brs:

Originally posted by Rex Smashington:

New World died because the combat is awful. Gathering and crafting are always given as examples of the best part of New World because the combat is that bad.

Instanced PVP had nothing to do with it's failure.

And there is no forced PVP in Throne and Liberty. Learn about the game through their many promo videos or description on the website before you post. There is scheduled PVP in certain zones only at certain times of day. If you don't want to PVP between 11 - 11:30am just go to a different zone for 30 minutes.

Everything isn't about you 24/7. Other people are allowed to enjoy the game as well.

what a silly comment but I understand that reading comprehension is hard for uneducated people who live on their computers. I am not saying there is forced PVP. People are complaining there is less PVP now and I am asking for arena and BG queues on top of whatever opwpvp there is.

The irony of you saying I'm online too much when you've responded to your own thread three times already. Yikes.

You need to stop reading what other basement dwellers on this forum who have never played T&L have to say about the game and listen to what the devs have already shown. There will always be PVP events happening at any moment of the day. They will just be changing zones. When zone A pvp event ends, zone B pvp event is beginning. You just fast travel to the new event.

I've noticed that most of the people that complain about the game do so from a very confident position of ignorance. They have 0 minutes played and pretend they know everything about the game. If you question them on it, they immediately resort to ad hominem attacks.

[Eido]

Originally posted by Rex Smashington:

Originally posted by brs:

what a silly comment but I understand that reading comprehension is hard for uneducated people who live on their computers. I am not saying there is forced PVP. People are complaining there is less PVP now and I am asking for arena and BG queues on top of whatever opwpvp there is.

The irony of you saying I'm online too much when you've responded to your own thread three times already. Yikes.

You need to stop reading what other basement dwellers on this forum who have never played T&L have to say about the game and listen to what the devs have already shown. There will always be PVP events happening at any moment of the day. They will just be changing zones. When zone A pvp event ends, zone B pvp event is beginning. You just fast travel to the new event.

I've noticed that most of the people that complain about the game do so from a very confident position of ignorance. They have 0 minutes played and pretend they know everything about the game. If you question them on it, they immediately resort to ad hominem attacks.

In other words, a "moving arena", a real solution for the 21st century. Trying to please everyone will please no one

[Kiryu Kazuma]

Originally posted by biofail:

Don't force pve people to pvp idc. Just give me arena and bg queue. NW flopped on this idea and added arenas after the game died. Why is it so hard for the modern MMO dev to add a decent arena or BG queue?

Why PVE ppl like you keep moaning in a pvp game? You can always go play another game instead complaining like this.

[forumcrybaby]

Originally posted by Kiryu Kazuma:

Originally posted by biofail:

Don't force pve people to pvp idc. Just give me arena and bg queue. NW flopped on this idea and added arenas after the game died. Why is it so hard for the modern MMO dev to add a decent arena or BG queue?

Why PVE ppl like you keep moaning in a pvp game? You can always go play another game instead complaining like this.

im not pve person wth you talkin about...

[forumcrybaby]

Originally posted by Rex Smashington:

Originally posted by brs:

what a silly comment but I understand that reading comprehension is hard for uneducated people who live on their computers. I am not saying there is forced PVP. People are complaining there is less PVP now and I am asking for arena and BG queues on top of whatever opwpvp there is.

The irony of you saying I'm online too much when you've responded to your own thread three times already. Yikes.

You need to stop reading what other basement dwellers on this forum who have never played T&L have to say about the game and listen to what the devs have already shown. There will always be PVP events happening at any moment of the day. They will just be changing zones. When zone A pvp event ends, zone B pvp event is beginning. You just fast travel to the new event.

I've noticed that most of the people that complain about the game do so from a very confident position of ignorance. They have 0 minutes played and pretend they know everything about the game. If you question them on it, they immediately resort to ad hominem attacks.

people who use words like "strawman" or as hominem" spend too much time online. No one in real life ever says those words. Go touch grass

[-={LG}=-]

Originally posted by biofail:

people who use words like "strawman" or as hominem" spend too much time online. No one in real life ever says those words.

Maybe not anyone you know. If you're going to engage in any sort of hobby that includes debate and argumentation, you will hear plenty of people use those words. If you're a fan of philosophy or rhetoric, you will hear plenty of people use those words. If you're a student of logic, you're going to hear those and a whole lot more like them.

If you're reasonably well read and hang out with similar people, not only will you hear those words spoken, but you'll encounter them written quite often as well.

Don't fall into the trap of thinking your small circle of friends is "real life." And by all that is good and holy, don't start embracing illiteracy as a virtue.

Originally posted by biofail:

Why is it so hard for the modern MMO dev to add a decent arena or BG queue?

Big game developers are corporate types who embrace many false notions, which they believe are actually touchstones that can make them millions of dollars. They actually believe that open world PvP enthusiasts are a large, untapped reservoir of money ... the exact opposite of reality. They have similar myths regarding the demographic makeup of PC gamers.

They'll believe anything if you rub some money on it and make it smell good to them.

[forumcrybaby]

Originally posted by -={LG}=-:

Originally posted by biofail:

people who use words like "strawman" or as hominem" spend too much time online. No one in real life ever says those words.

Maybe not anyone you know. If you're going to engage in any sort of hobby that includes debate and argumentation, you will hear plenty of people use those words. If you're a fan of philosophy or rhetoric, you will hear plenty of people use those words. If you're a student of logic, you're going to hear those and a whole lot more like them.

If you're reasonably well read and hang out with similar people, not only will you hear those words spoken, but you'll encounter them written quite often as well.

Don't fall into the trap of thinking your small circle of friends is "real life." And by all that is good and holy, don't start embracing illiteracy as a virtue.

Originally posted by biofail:

Why is it so hard for the modern MMO dev to add a decent arena or BG queue?

Big game developers are corporate types who embrace many false notions, which they believe are actually touchstones that can make them millions of dollars. They actually believe that open world PvP enthusiasts are a large, untapped reservoir of money ... the exact opposite of reality. They have similar myths regarding the demographic makeup of PC gamers.

They'll believe anything if you rub some money on it and make it smell good to them.

bro %99 of the time you hear any of those words they are just regurgitated by knuckleheads who think it makes them sound smarter on the internet be it in a gaming or political discussion. blah blah blah red herring blah blah. give me a break lol.

but for real though open world pvp sucks. ARENAS and BGS is the only real competitive PVP. open world is just mindless zerging