THRONE AND LIBERTY

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SaltyWeasel Aug 18, 2024 @ 1:04pm
Game is time gated like Lost Ark
Why?
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tesztkarik Aug 18, 2024 @ 2:32pm 
U still have plany of stuffs to do every day, At least u can play with a single char and u do not have to have 12 char like in lost ark to progress ur main. U can have max 3 char / account, but u are totally fine if u have only 1.
SaltyWeasel Aug 18, 2024 @ 2:40pm 
But why is it time gated?
time? what nonsense are you writing, are you having access problems?
agentkido Aug 19, 2024 @ 1:08am 
Originally posted by SaltyWeasel:
But why is it time gated?
Because the law over there literally forces them to time gate so they will go out and be a productive member of society instead of wasting it on a video game addiction. Many games do this, vindictus, elsword, there's others but u get the point.

But the way they get around these law enforced timegates is by selling you pots for real money. It's a clever system, they get money you get to play.
SaltyWeasel Aug 19, 2024 @ 6:55am 
Originally posted by agentkido:
Originally posted by SaltyWeasel:
But why is it time gated?
Because the law over there literally forces them to time gate so they will go out and be a productive member of society instead of wasting it on a video game addiction. Many games do this, vindictus, elsword, there's others but u get the point.

But the way they get around these law enforced timegates is by selling you pots for real money. It's a clever system, they get money you get to play.
Korean Law does not force time gated content, the game is Korean.
Bryan Fury Aug 19, 2024 @ 12:12pm 
What is gated? You can do whatever dungeon at any time, and the events are in loop every day..

Are you sure to have seen the correct game?
SaltyWeasel Aug 19, 2024 @ 1:36pm 
Originally posted by Bryan Fury:
What is gated? You can do whatever dungeon at any time, and the events are in loop every day..

Are you sure to have seen the correct game?

I heard that you can do dungeons as many times as you want but you can only get the main loot twice a day therefor you being blocked from progressing faster then they want you to and people can buy power with money.
I don't mind P2W but I can't stand time gates like Lost Ark.
Bryan Fury Aug 19, 2024 @ 2:12pm 
Originally posted by SaltyWeasel:
Originally posted by Bryan Fury:
What is gated? You can do whatever dungeon at any time, and the events are in loop every day..

Are you sure to have seen the correct game?

I heard that you can do dungeons as many times as you want but you can only get the main loot twice a day therefor you being blocked from progressing faster then they want you to and people can buy power with money.
I don't mind P2W but I can't stand time gates like Lost Ark.
And from where you heard that? This isn't true.

The loot system for DUNGEONS is connected to a set of "dungeon specific" point system that recharge DAILY up to a max of 9300 points (or something like that).

This allow you to even take vacation and not being in fear of losing progress as if you take a pause (the full ammount is reached after 5 days) you can spend those points later on... even all togheter in a day.

The system is good and allow for a lot of flexibility as you can decide how to use these points (even not doing any dungeon for few days and focus on other activities).
agentkido Aug 19, 2024 @ 3:47pm 
Originally posted by SaltyWeasel:
Originally posted by agentkido:
Because the law over there literally forces them to time gate so they will go out and be a productive member of society instead of wasting it on a video game addiction. Many games do this, vindictus, elsword, there's others but u get the point.

But the way they get around these law enforced timegates is by selling you pots for real money. It's a clever system, they get money you get to play.
Korean Law does not force time gated content, the game is Korean.
then what Law am I thinking of? I remember there was something for playing to much and they were trying to reduce it somehow.
agentkido Aug 19, 2024 @ 3:48pm 
Originally posted by SaltyWeasel:
Originally posted by Bryan Fury:
What is gated? You can do whatever dungeon at any time, and the events are in loop every day..

Are you sure to have seen the correct game?

I heard that you can do dungeons as many times as you want but you can only get the main loot twice a day therefor you being blocked from progressing faster then they want you to and people can buy power with money.
I don't mind P2W but I can't stand time gates like Lost Ark.
yeah theres a system u get like 360 a day at lvl 50 and it costs 120 per reward. but they can stack up to like 5 or 7 days from what im remembering in OBT. so its not bad for people who take a break.
SaltyWeasel Aug 19, 2024 @ 5:00pm 
Originally posted by Bryan Fury:
Originally posted by SaltyWeasel:

I heard that you can do dungeons as many times as you want but you can only get the main loot twice a day therefor you being blocked from progressing faster then they want you to and people can buy power with money.
I don't mind P2W but I can't stand time gates like Lost Ark.
And from where you heard that? This isn't true.

The loot system for DUNGEONS is connected to a set of "dungeon specific" point system that recharge DAILY up to a max of 9300 points (or something like that).

This allow you to even take vacation and not being in fear of losing progress as if you take a pause (the full ammount is reached after 5 days) you can spend those points later on... even all togheter in a day.

The system is good and allow for a lot of flexibility as you can decide how to use these points (even not doing any dungeon for few days and focus on other activities).

Which is exactly what a time gate is, not allowing some one to progress faster because there is a limit on how much you allow some one to do.
Bryan Fury Aug 19, 2024 @ 5:33pm 
Originally posted by SaltyWeasel:
Originally posted by Bryan Fury:
And from where you heard that? This isn't true.

The loot system for DUNGEONS is connected to a set of "dungeon specific" point system that recharge DAILY up to a max of 9300 points (or something like that).

This allow you to even take vacation and not being in fear of losing progress as if you take a pause (the full ammount is reached after 5 days) you can spend those points later on... even all togheter in a day.

The system is good and allow for a lot of flexibility as you can decide how to use these points (even not doing any dungeon for few days and focus on other activities).

Which is exactly what a time gate is, not allowing some one to progress faster because there is a limit on how much you allow some one to do.
Time gated is not what it is, at all. The whole "Time gated" mechanic lock stuff behind TIMED events that happens only on certain period of times. This doesn't happens here. You are not "timed gated", as you can do those things whenever you wants, you are not locked behing any time frame.

And it is not even "Entry Gated" because you can keep going forever into a dungeon, keeping the loot from the kills (yes, mobs drop stuff too) except the last chest that requires the dungeon points.

It would be "chest gated" at best, as that is the only thing you can't open up if you have not enough points but you can still keep going in any ammount of time you wish, even if you have not points to open the last chest AND you can do that whenever you want as you can enter any time inside a dungeon.

And beside that, how the system is made, is a good thing as it would allow people to NOT lose loot when can't connect into the game as you can have those points accumulate up to 5 days and use them any time you wish even all togheter at once.
Last edited by Bryan Fury; Aug 19, 2024 @ 5:35pm
SaltyWeasel Aug 19, 2024 @ 6:10pm 
Originally posted by Bryan Fury:
Originally posted by SaltyWeasel:

Which is exactly what a time gate is, not allowing some one to progress faster because there is a limit on how much you allow some one to do.
Time gated is not what it is, at all. The whole "Time gated" mechanic lock stuff behind TIMED events that happens only on certain period of times. This doesn't happens here. You are not "timed gated", as you can do those things whenever you wants, you are not locked behing any time frame.

And it is not even "Entry Gated" because you can keep going forever into a dungeon, keeping the loot from the kills (yes, mobs drop stuff too) except the last chest that requires the dungeon points.

It would be "chest gated" at best, as that is the only thing you can't open up if you have not enough points but you can still keep going in any ammount of time you wish, even if you have not points to open the last chest AND you can do that whenever you want as you can enter any time inside a dungeon.

And beside that, how the system is made, is a good thing as it would allow people to NOT lose loot when can't connect into the game as you can have those points accumulate up to 5 days and use them any time you wish even all togheter at once.
Anything that puts a daily limit on something is a time gate you can try to mental gymnastic all you want but it is what it is.
Last edited by SaltyWeasel; Aug 19, 2024 @ 6:15pm
Bryan Fury Aug 19, 2024 @ 6:13pm 
Originally posted by SaltyWeasel:
Originally posted by Bryan Fury:
Time gated is not what it is, at all. The whole "Time gated" mechanic lock stuff behind TIMED events that happens only on certain period of times. This doesn't happens here. You are not "timed gated", as you can do those things whenever you wants, you are not locked behing any time frame.

And it is not even "Entry Gated" because you can keep going forever into a dungeon, keeping the loot from the kills (yes, mobs drop stuff too) except the last chest that requires the dungeon points.

It would be "chest gated" at best, as that is the only thing you can't open up if you have not enough points but you can still keep going in any ammount of time you wish, even if you have not points to open the last chest AND you can do that whenever you want as you can enter any time inside a dungeon.

And beside that, how the system is made, is a good thing as it would allow people to NOT lose loot when can't connect into the game as you can have those points accumulate up to 5 days and use them any time you wish even all togheter at once.
Anything that puts a daily limit on something is a time gate you can try to mental gymnastic all you want but it is what it is.
"Time gate" mechanic lock stuff behind "time frames" that once you lose you'll have to wait the next time/day/week to do them. The game does not that. Point.

You can try to push something not true all you want, it wont change the facts.
SaltyWeasel Aug 19, 2024 @ 6:17pm 
Originally posted by Bryan Fury:
Originally posted by SaltyWeasel:
Anything that puts a daily limit on something is a time gate you can try to mental gymnastic all you want but it is what it is.
"Time gate" mechanic lock stuff behind "time frames" that once you lose you'll have to wait the next time/day/week to do them. The game does not that. Point.

You can try to push something not true all you want, it wont change the facts.
So you are saying I can achieve the same and gain the same loot with playing 24 hours non stop as some one who plays 24 days 1 hour a day? If the loot is only available twice a day and it forces you to wait till the next day till you can get that loot its time gated.
Last edited by SaltyWeasel; Aug 19, 2024 @ 6:23pm
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