Is there any mmo with better graphics?....

[Mythos]

...just wondering if there is any!

[Ushuo]

Better graphics .. hmm

- Black desert online ain't that bad looking even tho it's pretty old now.
- Ashes of creation although it's still in alpha stats so probably going to improve quite a lot.

But on top of it, TnL is on the top when it comes to pure graphics but beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say

[Mythos]

No i mean if there is a released mmo ,i dont know about the future but arent TnL graphics the best of mmorpgs so far?Black desert graphics are great they re just inferior to Tnl in my opinion!

[Weakside Wictor]

Kind of a subjective thing but Wow and GW2 both have cleaner and better graphics imo and run 800x better with no stutters, glitches, and getting stuck on the ground.

[Mythos]

gw2 and wow ...you mean the games from 2012 and 2004? Gr8 games both but i asked about graphics lol...just see TnL in epic settings in my opinion, theres no comparison!

[thanoskulo]

New world has good graffix quality but I dont like the art style
I guess currently TnL is uncontested for the genre

[Weakside Wictor]

Originally posted by Mythos:

gw2 and wow ...you mean the games from 2012 and 2004? Gr8 games both but i asked about graphics lol...just see TnL in epic settings in my opinion, theres no comparison!

What graphics are we talking about?
TnL has terrible anti-aliasing, everything looks pixelated and volumetric fog can't even be turned off completely. The only thing it has is maybe the detail in gear, and the physics of how your clothes move.
The recent zones of wow and gw2 are absolutely on par with tnl, and they don't run at 15 fps as soon as you encounter 3 players.
Game has no excuse to run this bad when it has nothing groundbreaking going on graphics-wise. Spell effects look downright ugly compared to any mmo. Wows spells blow it out of the water, not even a contest there.

[Mythos]

You talking about graphics and you compare TnL with wow?!!!! I mean omg besides the cartoon style graphics of wow you blame tnl for pixalated graphics...wow looks like a game from the 2000s even in full settings i mean ok i dont know what else to say!!!!!!....Ps: i constant run tnl with 5 year old gpu with 60+ fps all the time at medium settings!!!!!!!

[Weakside Wictor]

Originally posted by Mythos:

You talking about graphics and you compare TnL with wow?!!!! I mean omg besides the cartoon style graphics of wow you blame tnl for pixalated graphics...wow looks like a game from the 2000s even in full settings i mean ok i dont know what else to say!!!!!!....Ps: i constant run tnl with 5 year old gpu with 60+ fps all the time at medium settings!!!!!!!

Show me a video of you running the game on constant 60 fps on any boss and I will eat my shoe and paypal you a thousand dollars. Game stutters even when you turn the camera lmao. Heck even just flying through Herba Village you won't be constant 60 fps.
As I said, it's kind of subjective and up to personal taste, but wow's "cartoon" graphics is at least not pixelated and very easy on the eye.
In wow and gw2 you can also dive underwater, not rubberband and glitch through the whole river and waterfall every time you have the misfortune to enter water.

pc specs : radeon RX 7800 XT and ryzen 9 7900X

[Flushing]

Originally posted by Weakside Wictor:

Originally posted by Mythos:

gw2 and wow ...you mean the games from 2012 and 2004? Gr8 games both but i asked about graphics lol...just see TnL in epic settings in my opinion, theres no comparison!

What graphics are we talking about?
TnL has terrible anti-aliasing, everything looks pixelated and volumetric fog can't even be turned off completely. The only thing it has is maybe the detail in gear, and the physics of how your clothes move.
The recent zones of wow and gw2 are absolutely on par with tnl, and they don't run at 15 fps as soon as you encounter 3 players.
Game has no excuse to run this bad when it has nothing groundbreaking going on graphics-wise. Spell effects look downright ugly compared to any mmo. Wows spells blow it out of the water, not even a contest there.

The frame rates drops and performance optimization of both WoW and GW2 are much worse than Throne and Liberty.

GW2 suffers significant FPS drops on world bosses and WvW, likely because it uses a modified Guild Wars 1 engine that can only be pushed so far.

WoW is incapable of WvW, and we all get massive FPS drops and disconnects whenever player made Horde v Alliance was setup.

Throne and Liberty is the only mmo with decent graphics that is optimized extremely well for countless assets simultaneously.

That being said, I think Guild Wars 2 is the best of the three games because it's combat is the best but Throne and Liberty is praiseworthy for offering large-scale playability.

[Weakside Wictor]

Originally posted by Flushing:

Originally posted by Weakside Wictor:

What graphics are we talking about?
TnL has terrible anti-aliasing, everything looks pixelated and volumetric fog can't even be turned off completely. The only thing it has is maybe the detail in gear, and the physics of how your clothes move.
The recent zones of wow and gw2 are absolutely on par with tnl, and they don't run at 15 fps as soon as you encounter 3 players.
Game has no excuse to run this bad when it has nothing groundbreaking going on graphics-wise. Spell effects look downright ugly compared to any mmo. Wows spells blow it out of the water, not even a contest there.

The frame rates drops and performance optimization of both WoW and GW2 are much worse than Throne and Liberty.

GW2 suffers significant FPS drops on world bosses and WvW, likely because it uses a modified Guild Wars 1 engine that can only be pushed so far.

WoW is incapable of WvW, and we all get massive FPS drops and disconnects whenever player made Horde v Alliance was setup.

Throne and Liberty is the only mmo with decent graphics that is optimized extremely well for countless assets simultaneously.

That being said, I think Guild Wars 2 is the best of the three games because it's combat is the best but Throne and Liberty is praiseworthy for offering large-scale playability.

I have experienced frame rate drops in wow when I played Legion, but on a much worse hardware than I have now. About gw2, I remember it running almost flawlessy.
I don't remember having any issues on gw2 large-scale, but I may need to revisit the game to give you a proper opinion without lying.
I do agree about wow's large-scale being terrible, it indeed is, they modified something about the engine around Legion when they reworked large parts of the game, or they may just not allocate enough server resources since large-scale is not really a thing on wow anyway.
I heard people praising tnl's optimization and large-scale, but that was before Talandre. Right now in practice, it's terrible on brand new hardware. World bosses and mass pvp is barely playable on my end. I'm gonna record my fps the next boss.

[Mythos]

Ok but for the record i dont know how the discussion ended up with the wrong subgject..i asked about the beauty of the graphics and not the performance! I dont think theres a true rival there! TnL is on another level!

[Hal]

Pretty much all characters I have seen in BDO were better than the ones in TnL. But overall it isn't the graphics that make or break the game. If you argue that this is the best looking MMO, it just makes things worse as player numbers plummet to the ground. It must be lacking heavily in other areas in that case.

[Weakside Wictor]

Originally posted by Mythos:

Ok but for the record i dont know how the discussion ended up with the wrong subgject..i asked about the beauty of the graphics and not the performance! I dont think theres a true rival there! TnL is on another level!

Define beauty then. It is completely fine to think tnl looks the best.
Imo, GW2 looks better and is much easier on the eye. We can agree to disagree.

[Mythos]

agree in what you believe? no thanks....but if you still think gw2 has good graphics maek a comparison on youtbe on both games 4k max settings!!!! Gw2 looks like an old game which what it is!!!!!!!!!!Man like for serious go to wvw and zoom in at a castle wall
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! square pixalated walsl that seem like a game from loooong past!!!! you cant be serious comparing theese two games in graphics!!!!!!

[Weakside Wictor]

Originally posted by Mythos:

agree in what you believe? no thanks....but if you still think gw2 has good graphics maek a comparison on youtbe on both games 4k max settings!!!! Gw2 looks like an old game which what it is!!!!!!!!!!Man like for serious go to wvw and zoom in at a castle wall
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! square pixalated walsl that seem like a game from loooong past!!!! you cant be serious comparing theese two games in graphics!!!!!!

What does resolution matter in graphics bro?