THRONE AND LIBERTY

THRONE AND LIBERTY

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agh871 Dec 6, 2024 @ 5:02pm
150k luncent and you win the game (archboss weapons is killing this game)
so, throne and liberty is about getting the archboss weapons and dominating the arenas and all kinds of pvp

*yeah dude i get two archboss weapons and iam f2p dude, you know dude i'm very smart and superior to the others*

please, if you're going to comment the same sh*t about being f2p and dominating the game, better go to another post! :steamthumbsup:

the end game is only for those who are part of zergs or are p2w players.
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I mean its a pvp focused game so why wouldnt you want to be part of a zerg?
Boink Dec 6, 2024 @ 5:20pm 
Let us be clear on one thing, it is rare to see a REAL F2P get one Archboss Weapons let alone 2.

One player wearing archboss weapons is NOT a big changer. When a bunch of them are in the same group or match up is when bad things happen.
agh871 Dec 6, 2024 @ 5:24pm 
Originally posted by Boink:
Let us be clear on one thing, it is rare to see a REAL F2P get one Archboss Weapons let alone 2.

One player wearing archboss weapons is NOT a big changer. When a bunch of them are in the same group or match up is when bad things happen.

It sounds as fake as this game is p2f or that ♥♥♥♥ that newbies say.

I saw a sns/gs with only tevent sns and I was literally immortal.
The same with those who use bellandir's crossbow, the advantage over the others is huge.
agh871 Dec 6, 2024 @ 5:25pm 
Originally posted by musAmie -VACxiety-:
I mean its a pvp focused game so why wouldnt you want to be part of a zerg?

No one talks or criticizes others for being part of a zerg, but the zergs are the ones that dominate the game, both content, pve and pvp.
you can be part of whatever you want 'dude', but that's how this game is dying, that's all.
Boink Dec 6, 2024 @ 5:30pm 
Originally posted by ki09liu:

It sounds as fake as this game is p2f or that ♥♥♥♥ that newbies say.

I saw a sns/gs with only tevent sns and I was literally immortal.
The same with those who use bellandir's crossbow, the advantage over the others is huge.

LOL can you post your build please. I want to know who am I dealing with. Are you calling me as a newbie? LOL

There are 2 values they can be strong against unless they are not present in that fight or they dealing with very low CP then yeah they can and everyone else without a tevent "immortal".

Tevent, Queen bonuses are DAMAGE not making players "immortal". So I know I'm dealing with someone sub 3k CP.
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Val Dec 6, 2024 @ 8:04pm 
It's because the whole game's core was designed around being predatory, and push people to spending real life currency to purchase Lucent on the cash shop, to then buy the gear or traits from the auction house that they require. Why is the system designed in such a way you ask? Well, it's because NCSoft only cares about making as much profit as possible, as fast as possible, as making a quality MMO wasn't their main concern, just one that is good enough to draw enough people in and convince them to spend their money on the game. There's a reason why Amazon Games "suddenly" decided to delay Blue Protocol and then outright cancelling the localization, it's because they did their research up front, and knew that T&L would allow them to make a far higher profit, and so they have chosen to localize T&L instead. It doesn't help that the game's combat system is heavily designed to function around numbers, meaning the gear and abilities you have leveled up and equipped, instead of being proper action combat based and as such putting a much heavier emphasis on the skill level of the player itself. An actual true PVE endgame such as in the form of instanced raids, and a proper fleshed out crafting and life skill system, giving a form of content for players who wish to avoid all that PVP nonsense to enjoy instead, would also have somewhat elevated the issue.
Average Dec 6, 2024 @ 8:42pm 
nah arch boss weapon still wont save you from zerg, On top of that the most zerg class "templar" doesnt need archboss weapon, they need nirma+exca wand or (tevent wand, but in zvz not needed), tho Nirma is a must those templar teamed up like 20-30 of them in zvz is the real problem atm since they have insane stun. believe me or not a fully geared sns gs with boss arch atm is less impactful than nirma templar in zvz, templar not die and good interruption. basically this is class diff tho.
Average Dec 6, 2024 @ 8:54pm 
ok so now i mention the class which needs arch to play as dps: any dagger class might need tevent dagger in zvz gvg, otherwise survival is bad. now the real deal: bellandier staff, bellandir crossbow. these 2 are giga broken, overtuned. now speaking of bellandir sns and bellandir spear, bellandir sns is worse than nirma unless you play sns gs with tevent gs, otherwise this whole shield only gives you +20 dmg reduction and and a way worse passive than nirma, definely not worth the price it is rn(i think whales dont understand the game but i know some whales actually have bella sns and tevent gs and nirma and in any pvp which is not big alliance vs big alliance or siege they use nirma, because the soak from bella is useless and no point to take that slash skill) now speaking of bella spear, the death from above is totall sht skill everyone whos good at pvp will either step few steps back it will cancel your channeling due to out of range, or just press q to block it. this spear is way worse than juno spear andd should not even be an arch boss weapon, a skill which has 60s cooldown -15s seems nice but you can use it oonce anyway and you need get urself out before cast this trash skill again because it needs you actually cast fully 2s so bella spear is absolutely useless, i predict this spear will go for the same price as of bella sns. also keep in mind t2 arch speer is actually good it has push on a skill which has like 20s cooldown and can be used twice, actually goated passive, but we dont have it. another overtuned weapon is tevent gs in combination with bellandir sns, for standalone it is weaker than adentus, but lemme say something adentus is compeletly overtuned sht, most broken weapon i have ever seen, anyone who play gs and has it can potentially one shot you if he pulls off heavy attack, this makes absolutely nosense and i think they should nerf adentus to 40 damage. now summe it up, most broken weapons are: bellandir staff, bellandir crossbow. these are overtuned. now comes tevent dagger, tevent gs, tevent wand(if you want to do dps), tevent bow, they somewhat useful but not change how a class to be played in zvz. now comes trash tier: bellandir sns. now comes nosense tier bellandir speer, whomever buys this sht will regret cause first of all juno speer has better stats, on top of that a better passive.
76561198126831819 Dec 6, 2024 @ 10:00pm 
I suppose it all comes down to play style. I started my own guild so I could get access to some of the things you can buy with guild tokens, I am just slowly working through guild contracts to raise my guild up. I do bosses and other group content on a random team basis and I am doing fine. I have all my gear at Purple tear with all three talents. I am not a great player, just a casual player having fun. I have a combat score over 3000 and I started on the first day the game went public. I get caught in PVP every once and a while and I die pretty quickly. Not a big deal, just a learning lesson to pay attention to the day/night cycle and which bosses are Peace status. I have participated in the first two tax runs and been slaughtered with lots of gusto. My only problem is that everyone is red on the big battles and the tax runs so you just have to go in swinging like a drunken berserker and have some fun. It would be nice if they could fix the big battles so the main alliance is red and all the other folks are not. It might make for a more well developed battle but that is just one small thing in an otherwise outstanding experience. Now just to add excitement and additional things to do I created four different combo sets so I can try new styles and build them up as well. My main is GS/Longbow and the new combos are Spear/Staff, Crossbow/Dagger, Wand/Staff, and GS/Sword. I generally focus all my styles on DPS for PVE. It works for me and I don't feel like I am being blocked from any events.
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Date Posted: Dec 6, 2024 @ 5:02pm
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