Whales already started excuses

[Cagkan]

People I meet in dungeons who is like all max trait full level 9 weapons. Around 2800 gear score. Every one of them is telling they did this all free to play didn't spend money. They made like 40k lucent in 2 weeks xD I would believe them if I was not playing the game for 2 week. I also play it with an alt character. Anything you can sell in this game is weekly capped as well. Your main money comes from selling litographs which are made with ink and thats is weekly capped. There is no way people are earning at least 3k lucent every day from their 3 dungeon uses. Stop the cap boiz and just admit to whaling no one is gonna shame you.

[Jordan_Peterson]

word

[Kyutaru]

I mean it's possible if they're in the top guild. The guild that gets all the world boss drops can definitely afford to sell them for 10,000 a pop. But ya, still fishy.

[Cagkan]

Originally posted by Kyutaru:

I mean it's possible if they're in the top guild. The guild that gets all the world boss drops can definitely afford to sell them for 10,000 a pop. But ya, still fishy.

they usually tell they made lucent by selling stuff on auction. And you are right if they were in the best guild in the game which is sharing world boss drops with each other that could be true. But now I am pretty at the end game and can't really do anything else then limited activities I meet up with these people a lot. I bought 0 traits from market and I am around 2564 gear score. After I played from the release of the game to this day with an alt I only made around 5k lucent which I got some lucky extracts from good weapons. I know there is no way in hell someone making more than 30k lucent with doing the same thing as me. The game is pretty simple not complicated there so little that you can make money from.

[Jordan_Peterson]

Originally posted by Kyutaru:

I mean it's possible if they're in the top guild. The guild that gets all the world boss drops can definitely afford to sell them for 10,000 a pop. But ya, still fishy.

they still can not sell those drops directly and need to use litography which is on a weekly limit afaik.

[Cagkan]

Originally posted by TwoTime:

Originally posted by Kyutaru:

I mean it's possible if they're in the top guild. The guild that gets all the world boss drops can definitely afford to sell them for 10,000 a pop. But ya, still fishy.

they still can not sell those drops directly and need to use litography which is on a weekly limit afaik.

yep thats true. The real give away of their lies is that. Even they were selling extracts which is not limited really. Even if they dropped the best extract and sold that it is like 1500 lucent. And dropping that is pretty rare.

[Lee]

I have +9 Blue max traits with 3 purples at +9 (1 trait) I am sitting on 2800

I bought EA and the Battle pass / Levelling Pass ONLY.

I have made 7k lucent on the Auction House so far buy Lithographing gear I don't need that sells for anything over 1k, and buying the traits for the gear I have with it. I have also trait extracted bis traits that I do not need for other classes at decent prices.

People just need to learn that you will get no where if you think running just co-op dungeons is a thing. Go do your contracts > buy your blessing pouches > do ALL your Abyss Contracts > Farm Abyss Dung for hours at a time > then do your co-op dung when your off cooldown.

[Jordan_Peterson]

Originally posted by Diz:

I have +9 Blue max traits with 3 purples at +9 (1 trait) I am sitting on 2800

I bought EA and the Battle pass / Levelling Pass ONLY.

I have made 7k lucent on the Auction House so far buy Lithographing gear I don't need that sells for anything over 1k, and buying the traits for the gear I have with it. I have also trait extracted bis traits that I do not need for other classes at decent prices.

People just need to learn that you will get no where if you think running just co-op dungeons is a thing. Go do your contracts > buy your blessing pouches > do ALL your Abyss Contracts > Farm Abyss Dung for hours at a time > then do your co-op dung when your off cooldown.

yeah in those games some people confuse being lucky in rng with "understanding" something.
But sure, its also knowing just what to sell when and for how much.

[Cagkan]

Originally posted by Diz:

I have +9 Blue max traits with 3 purples at +9 (1 trait) I am sitting on 2800

I bought EA and the Battle pass / Levelling Pass ONLY.

I have made 7k lucent on the Auction House so far buy Lithographing gear I don't need that sells for anything over 1k, and buying the traits for the gear I have with it. I have also trait extracted bis traits that I do not need for other classes at decent prices.

People just need to learn that you will get no where if you think running just co-op dungeons is a thing. Go do your contracts > buy your blessing pouches > do ALL your Abyss Contracts > Farm Abyss Dung for hours at a time > then do your co-op dung when your off cooldown.

my man maxing blue gear will only higher ur gear score for now and it is cheap. The people I am talking about are the ones with maxed out full purple weapons.

[76561199243952791]

Originally posted by TwoTime:

Originally posted by Diz:

I have +9 Blue max traits with 3 purples at +9 (1 trait) I am sitting on 2800

I bought EA and the Battle pass / Levelling Pass ONLY.

I have made 7k lucent on the Auction House so far buy Lithographing gear I don't need that sells for anything over 1k, and buying the traits for the gear I have with it. I have also trait extracted bis traits that I do not need for other classes at decent prices.

People just need to learn that you will get no where if you think running just co-op dungeons is a thing. Go do your contracts > buy your blessing pouches > do ALL your Abyss Contracts > Farm Abyss Dung for hours at a time > then do your co-op dung when your off cooldown.

yeah in those games some people confuse being lucky in rng with "understanding" something.
But sure, its also knowing just what to sell when and for how much.

There was a video on YT called “11(or so) mistakes new players should avoid doing” or something like that. The game tutorials won't teach you all of this, but once you learn about these “mistakes” before hand, your gaming experience will be greatly improved. Especially future gear progression. New players, who had no idea about all of this stuff, may cripple their progression, and be lagging behind. But then again, it's normal for new players, to make mistakes. Well, usually so. But in Korean games like this one, making mistakes early can have its consequences. At least for the players' egos.

[Jordan_Peterson]

Originally posted by skyyer:

Originally posted by TwoTime:

yeah in those games some people confuse being lucky in rng with "understanding" something.
But sure, its also knowing just what to sell when and for how much.

There was a video on YT called “11(or so) mistakes new players should avoid doing” or something like that. The game tutorials won't teach you all of this, but once you learn about these “mistakes” before hand, your gaming experience will be greatly improved. Especially future gear progression. New players, who had no idea about all of this stuff, may cripple their progression, and be lagging behind. But then again, it's normal for new players, to make mistakes. Well, usually so. But in Korean games like this one, making mistakes early can have its consequences. At least for the players' egos.

exactly my point! Those played on korean servers already have an huge advantage.
But there is something that goes past the normal player and only if you are into math youd probably even understand, but the more lucky you are in the game, the better your experience and people underestimate how much this factor can influence your progress. Some people fail over and over on upgrades or never get any world boss drops while others can nearly an upgrade by one tapping everything and get a drop nearly everytime.

[Cagkan]

Originally posted by TwoTime:

Originally posted by skyyer:

There was a video on YT called “11(or so) mistakes new players should avoid doing” or something like that. The game tutorials won't teach you all of this, but once you learn about these “mistakes” before hand, your gaming experience will be greatly improved. Especially future gear progression. New players, who had no idea about all of this stuff, may cripple their progression, and be lagging behind. But then again, it's normal for new players, to make mistakes. Well, usually so. But in Korean games like this one, making mistakes early can have its consequences. At least for the players' egos.

exactly my point! Those played on korean servers already have an huge advantage.
But there is something that goes past the normal player and only if you are into math youd probably even understand, but the more lucky you are in the game, the better your experience and people underestimate how much this factor can influence your progress. Some people fail over and over on upgrades or never get any world boss drops while others can nearly an upgrade by one tapping everything and get a drop nearly everytime.

I don't understand what does any of this have to do with traits. grinding growthstones can be done as free to play as well will be long but not even close to the system with traits. And the biggest gear score cap is done by traits to free to play players. real pay to win whale aspect of the game is just buying the bis trait extracts from market. The game is pretty simple there is no guide that will make you have 30k lucent with this state of the game.

[Jordan_Peterson]

Originally posted by Cagkan:

Originally posted by TwoTime:

exactly my point! Those played on korean servers already have an huge advantage.
But there is something that goes past the normal player and only if you are into math youd probably even understand, but the more lucky you are in the game, the better your experience and people underestimate how much this factor can influence your progress. Some people fail over and over on upgrades or never get any world boss drops while others can nearly an upgrade by one tapping everything and get a drop nearly everytime.

I don't understand what does any of this have to do with traits. grinding growthstones can be done as free to play as well will be long but not even close to the system with traits. And the biggest gear score cap is done by traits to free to play players. real pay to win whale aspect of the game is just buying the bis trait extracts from market. The game is pretty simple there is no guide that will make you have 30k lucent with this state of the game.

traits? I was never talking about traits.

[Firecam]

Yeah, P2W players want to be seen as F2P because of fear of acceptance. Since no one likes addicts they lied to themselves and hope to get the love they desperately seek. Classic .

[DAWN OF THE DEAD]

whales why game is made tho

[Cagkan]

Originally posted by THECAPTAINGHOST:

whales why game is made tho

Yeah but the way whales act is funny. They act like they are natural when on steroids