THRONE AND LIBERTY

THRONE AND LIBERTY

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Rain Oct 8, 2024 @ 3:16pm
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The gearing system in this game is going to kill it.
///WALL OF TEXT CRITS YOU!///

So. I am level 50 and I have been doing a bit of math.

There are finite ways to get good gear outside of spending real world money. You have farm coop dungeons roughly 2-3 times a day and hope for a drop. You can then farm public dungeons with a full group for only specific drops.

The last is crafting, but there is a catch. In order to craft the items you want from the weapons/armor/accessories vendor you must have a crafting recipe for it; lithograph. In order to get this lithograph with the particular item you want you need to do the following;

1. Farm the baser materials like the wood, cloth and metal and stuff. Do contracts to get the crystals which is a daily process as well.

2. You need to farm dynamic events which are the big ass group events in every region. You are in direct competition with everyone else to get the high rankings to get a drop called "Special Resistance Medals". You need 40x of these to craft one item for a particular gear slot likes gloves, boots and the like.

The thing is though -- these events all drop at specific times throughout the day and night. I think around 2/4 hours apart. So any normal playthrough which doesn't account for a day-job you are looking, at best, at 3-4x medals max if you qualify to get the drop. So what does this mean? You have to farm these events from around two and a half months for one item. Just one. You have 11x armor slots not counting two weapons.

You are looking at around over a year to fully gear a single character for the specific items you want WITH the specific weapon combos you want. However...this doesn't include the traits that you can unlock for min/max your gear. The traits you unlock REQUIRE identical item to start unlocking and you have to do this with every piece of gear you want.

So, if you intend to play this game long-term then you better not vary in what you want once you reach purple quality items else you are setting yourself up for a grinding experience like you wouldn't believe.

For most people this isn't plausible. Enjoy the experience while you can because if you are anything like me and love variety then this game isn't for you. It's going to aggravate the crap out of you because of this.
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ministrog Oct 8, 2024 @ 3:50pm 
from memory of the video, you can use a grade below right? the blue stuff but the rates is start at like 1%. don't play game so im just asking here.
Firecam Oct 8, 2024 @ 4:01pm 
Originally posted by ministrog:
from memory of the video, you can use a grade below right? the blue stuff but the rates is start at like 1%. don't play game so im just asking here.

It's for building pity for the traits system. So you waste materials and time on purpose and when you reach 100% you can get the trait x1. You need to do that 3 times for 1 trait and you have 3 different traits per items. Lmao :steamhappy: .
Last edited by Firecam; Oct 8, 2024 @ 4:02pm
Pinky Sprinkles Oct 8, 2024 @ 4:09pm 
Thank you for this post. I just downloaded the game to try it out, and I can't get any clear information on the grind / p2w aspect of it, probably due to it being new. Most of the comments have just been either overly positive and vague or neutral and vague without any details.

You laid bare the real grind of the game, thank you so much for clearly explaining the investment from players this game is requiring... over a year of grinding.

I'm going to mess around with it just for fun, but knowing this, I'll not invest any significant time or interest. Thank you again!
Firecam Oct 8, 2024 @ 4:17pm 
Originally posted by Pinky Sprinkles:
Thank you for this post. I just downloaded the game to try it out, and I can't get any clear information on the grind / p2w aspect of it, probably due to it being new. Most of the comments have just been either overly positive and vague or neutral and vague without any details.

You laid bare the real grind of the game, thank you so much for clearly explaining the investment from players this game is requiring... over a year of grinding.

I'm going to mess around with it just for fun, but knowing this, I'll not invest any significant time or interest. Thank you again!

A good numbers of F2P just play until endgame and then quits. Have fun while you still can.
ministrog Oct 8, 2024 @ 4:21pm 
Originally posted by Firecam:
Originally posted by ministrog:
from memory of the video, you can use a grade below right? the blue stuff but the rates is start at like 1%. don't play game so im just asking here.

It's for building pity for the traits system. So you waste materials and time on purpose and when you reach 100% you can get the trait x1. You need to do that 3 times for 1 trait and you have 3 different traits per items. Lmao :steamhappy: .
yeah lol that's also providing you can out bid someone on the AH too. honestly, ncsoft have made worser systems like the "enchant gear piece past 15+ and it can potentially get deleted".
No the fact the game is just bad will kill it.. Already dead in Korea.. last ditch attempt to make some money on the IP here.. Anyone thinks otherwise , is just lying to themselves.. =)
Phits Oct 8, 2024 @ 4:29pm 
I think a big problem is the fact the only way to put lucent into the market is by buying it. So the economy is only as strong as the whales want it to be. I honestly think there are some people that think selling on the AH is free lucent from the game not other people that paid for it.
Firecam Oct 8, 2024 @ 4:36pm 
Originally posted by Phits:
I think a big problem is the fact the only way to put lucent into the market is by buying it. So the economy is only as strong as the whales want it to be. I honestly think there are some people that think selling on the AH is free lucent from the game not other people that paid for it.

True, some P2W products give you a few of that premium ressources like 50 or a 100 to start your journey. It's not much but that's a start. Instead in this one they gave 0. Meaning that at least one idiot had to waste money to start the system. Of course we know there's plenty of them because of the early access of a free to play P2W product.
⭐T⭐D⭐ Oct 8, 2024 @ 4:56pm 
Originally posted by Phits:
I think a big problem is the fact the only way to put lucent into the market is by buying it. So the economy is only as strong as the whales want it to be. I honestly think there are some people that think selling on the AH is free lucent from the game not other people that paid for it.

What? I just did some cooking and now I've sold what i made and earned Lucent. What are you on about?
Phits Oct 8, 2024 @ 5:02pm 
Originally posted by ~T~D~:
Originally posted by Phits:
I think a big problem is the fact the only way to put lucent into the market is by buying it. So the economy is only as strong as the whales want it to be. I honestly think there are some people that think selling on the AH is free lucent from the game not other people that paid for it.

What? I just did some cooking and now I've sold what i made and earned Lucent. What are you on about?

Did you sell it to an NPC for Lucent? Cause news flash if you sold it on the Auction House another player bought it and they bought that Lucent for real world money. There is literally ZERO ways to get Lucent in game with out someone having paid money for it. No quests, events, dungeons or raids give Lucent it can only be put into game when its bought. So AH prices will only be what the people paying for Lucent need them to be.
Vambrace Oct 8, 2024 @ 5:04pm 
Originally posted by ~T~D~:
Originally posted by Phits:
I think a big problem is the fact the only way to put lucent into the market is by buying it. So the economy is only as strong as the whales want it to be. I honestly think there are some people that think selling on the AH is free lucent from the game not other people that paid for it.

What? I just did some cooking and now I've sold what i made and earned Lucent. What are you on about?
The lucent you acquired was not generated from within the game it came initially from someone purchasing it for real cash...

This games market is literally a Real Money cash farm.
Last edited by Vambrace; Oct 8, 2024 @ 5:05pm
SiNiSTAR Oct 8, 2024 @ 5:16pm 
Originally posted by 𒆜Nurse☩With☩Wound𒆜:
No the fact the game is just bad will kill it.. Already dead in Korea.. last ditch attempt to make some money on the IP here.. Anyone thinks otherwise , is just lying to themselves.. =)

the game is fine, plenty of "bad" mmos still doing good, the p2w is what kills it it the west. Its same with countless other mmos that died cause of greedy mtx, it doesnt work in the west but these korean devs dont get it.
Last edited by SiNiSTAR; Oct 8, 2024 @ 5:16pm
dreamstation Oct 8, 2024 @ 5:18pm 
Better off playing an ARPG with good loot like Last Epoch or Diablo 2. Not going to say they respect your time but at least it's fun to grind.
RedVomit Oct 8, 2024 @ 5:29pm 
D2r sucks, that's an entirely new nightmare taken over by people not unlike the ones who ♥♥♥♥♥ here.
RedVomit Oct 8, 2024 @ 5:31pm 
As far as gearing, try two years on Lineage 2 (reborn) at least to get S grade and then only if you're in a big clan.
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Date Posted: Oct 8, 2024 @ 3:16pm
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