We need Multi-Spec (Tank/Healer/DPS/etc.)

[Label07]

I main tank which is fine for now. I would like to heal, DPS, and maybe have a totally different build for PVP + maybe theory crafting/experimenting.

Currently we are HEAVILY limited to one build due to growthstones of all rarities. It would take forever to acquire enough growthstones to max our main before even thinking about a secondary spec.

What I'm proposing or asking for is a system, that allows us (on the same character) to change specializations kind of how we have multi-skill specializations in the Skills area (only 3 there however, infinite would be better).

I want to play or fill all roles.

Another factor to consider are people (kind of even myself) that are tank or healer mains, PVE takes us 2x if not longer to complete kill objectives/contracts/etc than our DPS counterparts. With multiple specs this would be alleviated.

So how would this be possible....
I would imagine based on either growthstones, XP, or some of way it could be found what a players has used on equipment/weapon and those growthstones be available for each specialization. This would apply to any/all growthstones forever.

For example:
I have 100x green growthstones used on green equipment and 50x un-used. When changing to an untouched specialization I would have 150 usable green growthstones.
Same application for active/passive skills.

[OneNineDeepSilence]

I agree, these kind of games need to allow something like FFXIV has: can be any class on same character without penalties of any kind.

This game is already done, and is not good. I picked their half baked "healer" option (something + Wand) because I like helping others, but was a wrong choice. In this game can see a player with low health in PvE, and you a healer, and can't heal it, must be in a party to make it work. In GW2, ESO, FFXIV, Aion, BDO and many others, can heal randoms, unless you are fighting them.
Also having a Wand hurts your damage output, you have far less skills to do damage with them, so you end up doing damage 10 seconds or so and then wait on cooldowns for 10 seconds (some/most skills are 30 sec or longer cooldown), while surrounded by angry mobs (even more so if you are single target class). But you can just turn into a furry and run away of course, so cool.

It is what it is, and nobody learns anything from it. Next big and shiny MMO will have same stupid mistakes all over.

[N.A.T.]

There are 3 slots for Armor builds and 3 slots for saving all your skills for said build... Do you guys not read before you post your complains? I run a healer/tank/dps build with these options... The ONLY "con" is that you can't switch on demand, but I can see why you would be locked for dungeons and cooldowns (i.e. balance and technology).

[Firecam]

Originally posted by N.A.T.:

There are 3 slots for Armor builds and 3 slots for saving all your skills for said build... Do you guys not read before you post your complains? I run a healer/tank/dps build with these options... The ONLY "con" is that you can't switch on demand, but I can see why you would be locked for dungeons and cooldowns (i.e. balance and technology).

He was referrering to weapons, do you guys not read before posting your answer ?

[N.A.T.]

Originally posted by Firecam:

Originally posted by N.A.T.:

There are 3 slots for Armor builds and 3 slots for saving all your skills for said build... Do you guys not read before you post your complains? I run a healer/tank/dps build with these options... The ONLY "con" is that you can't switch on demand, but I can see why you would be locked for dungeons and cooldowns (i.e. balance and technology).

He was referrering to weapons, do you guys not read before posting your answer ?

OP asked for two things...
1) Different specs. Again, my comment stands.
2) A way to minimize the grind. I will answer this with a question: if you were an MMO developer house and wanted players to spend "forever" in your game, would you A) not have grindy content, or B) have grindy content? Your answer will tell the community if you think like a business person (and make a profit in your business) or not..., that is, if you are brave enough to answer.
[Hint: this is an Asian MMO]

[Firecam]

Originally posted by N.A.T.:

Originally posted by Firecam:

He was referrering to weapons, do you guys not read before posting your answer ?

OP asked for two things...
1) Different specs. Again, my comment stands.
2) A way to minimize the grind. I will answer this with a question: if you were an MMO developer house and wanted players to spend "forever" in your game, would you A) not have grindy content, or B) have grindy content? Your answer will tell the community if you think like a business person (and make a profit in your business) or not..., that is, if you are brave enough to answer.
[Hint: this is an Asian MMO]

What kind of asian tho ? There's a type that no one likes for good reasons, so i wonder if that was the "C" one. Then what kind of MMO ? A game or a product ? I cannot provide a proper answer without knowing that.

[N.A.T.]

Originally posted by Firecam:

Originally posted by N.A.T.:

OP asked for two things...
1) Different specs. Again, my comment stands.
2) A way to minimize the grind. I will answer this with a question: if you were an MMO developer house and wanted players to spend "forever" in your game, would you A) not have grindy content, or B) have grindy content? Your answer will tell the community if you think like a business person (and make a profit in your business) or not..., that is, if you are brave enough to answer.
[Hint: this is an Asian MMO]

What kind of asian tho ? There's a type that no one likes for good reasons, so i wonder if that was the "C" one. Then what kind of MMO ? A game or a product ? I cannot provide a proper answer without knowing that.

Took you all that time to write a few questions and deflect when you could have looked it up on the Internet... want to be spoon-fed some more? Not gonna happen here.

[Firecam]

Originally posted by N.A.T.:

Originally posted by Firecam:

What kind of asian tho ? There's a type that no one likes for good reasons, so i wonder if that was the "C" one. Then what kind of MMO ? A game or a product ? I cannot provide a proper answer without knowing that.

Took you all that time to write a few questions and deflect when you could have looked it up on the Internet... want to be spoon-fed some more? Not gonna happen here.

Yeah 2 minutes was clearly a lot of time invested, i should have P2W the answer instead. What a weird person .

[Label07]

Originally posted by N.A.T.:

There are 3 slots for Armor builds and 3 slots for saving all your skills for said build... Do you guys not read before you post your complains? I run a healer/tank/dps build with these options... The ONLY "con" is that you can't switch on demand, but I can see why you would be locked for dungeons and cooldowns (i.e. balance and technology).

Uh, yea...I mentioned that in my opening...

I would roll wand/bow if I was healing. In my example and the ideal way to rollout this feature, each spec would be entirely different from the last. In other words my first spec would have my SNS+GS and all its builds saved on the 1,2,3 slots. The second would be Healer with whatever builds.

I think the main thing you are missing are all the used growthstones. No, I am not going to use the finite, skill conversion scrolls. Those are meant for a direct change from one archetype to another one time not continuously as I want.