THRONE AND LIBERTY

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BanryuTV Oct 8, 2024 @ 7:45am
Apparently this game is dead in KR because of p2w
I asked korean players why this game is dead in KR their answer "ncsoft bad image in korea" and "p2w".
So this game will live like 2 months and max 6 months I guess in West.
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BanryuTV Oct 8, 2024 @ 7:48am 
So I think this game is just a quick crashgrab for amazon thats why they release it same time as the new world expansion to recover costs. Don't get your hopes up.
BanryuTV Oct 8, 2024 @ 7:49am 
Personally I'll just enjoy the game while it's alive then move on I guess.
FreakingGamerZ Oct 8, 2024 @ 7:53am 
When amazon got the game, they changed things to make it less p2w. And as of now, i cant see how this game is p2w
Firecam Oct 8, 2024 @ 7:57am 
When a P2W KR product come to the west you know it's already terrible.
blubberandy Oct 8, 2024 @ 7:57am 
Originally posted by FreakingGamerZ:
When amazon got the game, they changed things to make it less p2w. And as of now, i cant see how this game is p2w
Go to the menu and click "auction house"
Raze Oct 8, 2024 @ 7:59am 
LOL This entire thread stinks of: Trust me bro.

Touch grass my guy.
Soul Reaver Oct 8, 2024 @ 8:01am 
Lost Ark is insanely p2w as well and it is very popular in KR.
i don't think a company having bad image will stop it from selling well if it made a good product
Koreans complain that it was not very pay to win
★REM★ Oct 8, 2024 @ 8:17am 
Originally posted by Soul Reaver:
Lost Ark is insanely p2w as well and it is very popular in KR.
i don't think a company having bad image will stop it from selling well if it made a good product

You do realize Lost Ark in Korea is much LESS P2W than Amazon western version right? Amazon set behind paywall stuff that you get free in Korea, as well as lowering rates for lot of stuff in the hope western players open the wallet.
So to recap, yes it is much more popular in Korea, and for good reasons.
Last edited by ★REM★; Oct 8, 2024 @ 8:17am
Robi™ Oct 8, 2024 @ 8:29am 
u dum
Originally posted by Raze:
LOL This entire thread stinks of: Trust me bro.

Touch grass my guy.

I can read you articles videos in Korean. You can also Google and translate the page to English.

Room temp IQ in celsius response.

Here's a Youtube Video. You can translate the comments too. People are complaining about "과금." Roughly speaking excessive monetization. In Western terms, P2W.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G-3pWHDh0o&ab_channel=%EC%A0%9C%EC%9D%B4%EA%B2%8C%EC%9E%84%EC%B1%84%EB%84%90
Cassidyshdw Oct 8, 2024 @ 8:39am 
Koreans as Chineese and Japaneese love spending money in video games. Ncsoft had to add more in-game purchase elements because Koreans had little to spend on. That's why when you say it's "typical Korean MMO" it doesn't mean it's bad, it's just how they play grind games in Asian regions
Blowinpurp654 Oct 8, 2024 @ 8:50am 
who gives a ♥♥♥♥ just play the game r dont like good lord every mmo thats comes out all yall do is complain complain complain how bout have fun with the games instead of looking forward to complaining about them all the time like u know who kills every game yall people do cuz yall find the smallest ♥♥♥♥ to complain about nomatter if the game is good r not like noone gives a ♥♥♥♥ that the game is completely free yall just care about what yall can complain about to bash the game an kill it ♥♥♥♥♥ stupid yall people gunna kill this whole genre of games there will be no mmos cuz yall dont shut the ♥♥♥♥ up
Firecam Oct 8, 2024 @ 8:53am 
Originally posted by Blowinpurp654:
who gives a ♥♥♥♥ just play the game r dont like good lord every mmo thats comes out all yall do is complain complain complain how bout have fun with the games instead of looking forward to complaining about them all the time like u know who kills every game yall people do cuz yall find the smallest ♥♥♥♥ to complain about nomatter if the game is good r not like noone gives a ♥♥♥♥ that the game is completely free yall just care about what yall can complain about to bash the game an kill it ♥♥♥♥♥ stupid yall people gunna kill this whole genre of games there will be no mmos cuz yall dont shut the ♥♥♥♥ up

That P2W product is quite trash :poop: .
NoHeal Oct 8, 2024 @ 8:53am 
Ah yes, so why is Maple Story and Linguine 2 still extremely popular games, especially in the Pc bangs. p2w, not p2w too much p2w not enough p2w, have nothing to do with why it failed in Korea. p2w inst even a major concern over there as it does have a different culture to it.

Why if failed, simple the same reason every MMO struggles, Market is over saturated and unlike another games MMO come with a massive sunken cost to them. Why play a new MMo when you already spent 1000's of hours and 100$ not just on the game but at the PC bang to play it. This is why Maple Story and Linguine are still very popular. This is one of the reason all the WoW clones failed in the west.

And stop thinking a mmo needs 100ks of players to be good/alive or active. They don't and to be successful from a business side it just need to be in the blue and f2p models over a long term bring most of these mmos into the blue.

With that side, this game is meh. Its ok its not great but it will be fine. It's going to find its dedicated player base and be plenty active for a good few years before Ncsoft send it to maintenance mode.
Last edited by NoHeal; Oct 8, 2024 @ 8:59am
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