People are gonna be extremely disappointed when they reach end game..

[SkFy]

P2w, unbalanced/gear based pvp in a p2w game, low chance to get drops at (world/dungeon)bosses, super long dungeon que (while only being able to que one at a time) and endless mob grinding.
I just don't see this game succeed..

Don't bother with the comments that you're having fun, not saying you're not allowed to and if you really were having fun you wouldn't be reading this but playing.
Really think they should change a lot of stuff in this game for it to be successful in EU/NA

[Yes Man]

other than the book to grow skills i don't see anything in shop that's p2w at all. If anything its extremely lacking.

[SkFy]

Originally posted by Yes Man:

other than the book to grow skills i don't see anything in shop that's p2w at all. If anything its extremely lacking.

Look at the auction house then :D

People are buying raid boss weapons for hundreds of dollars/euros..
And you can buy mats to craft upgrade materials

[TheConq]

the entire auction house is paid currency, you buy additional traits on the auction house, guild auction are PAID CURRENCY, u buy straight up armor pieces/weps from guild auctions, jesus u cope bots r rampid in the comments.

[Saga]

Yep. Essentially what I said in my review.

The loot drops for bosses for even BLUE gear is pretty ridiculous when you consider what all you gotta do to get them to drop. Unless you are in a Guild, World Bosses aren't much better, especially those that are in conflict. I was having fun exploring the zones, playing with the story, and leveling, but now that I've hit end game I find the game has reared its ugly head.

It's still a fun end to end experience but that end game is especially ugly.

[Saga]

Originally posted by SkFy:

Originally posted by Yes Man:

other than the book to grow skills i don't see anything in shop that's p2w at all. If anything its extremely lacking.

Look at the auction house then :D

People are buying raid boss weapons for hundreds of dollars/euros..
And you can buy mats to craft upgrade materials

Old me would have bought in.

I am older and wiser.

System is ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and they're ♥♥♥♥♥♥ for making it only with real world currency. Complete BS.

[Yes Man]

Originally posted by SkFy:

Originally posted by Yes Man:

other than the book to grow skills i don't see anything in shop that's p2w at all. If anything its extremely lacking.

Look at the auction house then :D

People are buying raid boss weapons for hundreds of dollars/euros..
And you can buy mats to craft upgrade materials

duh the freaking auction house is not working for me at all so no clue

[SkFy]

Originally posted by Dripsolo:

Yep. Essentially what I said in my review.

The loot drops for bosses for even BLUE gear is pretty ridiculous when you consider what all you gotta do to get them to drop. Unless you are in a Guild, World Bosses aren't much better, especially those that are in conflict. I was having fun exploring the zones, playing with the story, and leveling, but now that I've hit end game I find the game has reared its ugly head.

It's still a fun end to end experience but that end game is especially ugly.

Trying to enjoy as well, but that's very hard when you're in que for hours for each dungeon you wanna join, have a limit or contracts and done all your quests.
Most world events are super boring and so is farming crypt.
And world bosses is a few min each couple hours

Oh and another issue is people queing with the wrong roles in dungeons, or not knowing mechs then leaving the group so you have to que again.. really fun experience.

[SkFy]

Originally posted by Yes Man:

Originally posted by SkFy:

Look at the auction house then :D

People are buying raid boss weapons for hundreds of dollars/euros..
And you can buy mats to craft upgrade materials

duh the freaking auction house is not working for me at all so no clue

Well need max lvl to use it i believe.
Guess you not max lvl yet then?

[MekaDeth]

I've never played an MMO where the end game wasn't disappointing at release, this is why I am in no rush to reach max level, there is so much free content if you stop to smell the roses instead of trying to win a pointless sperm race.

[Yes Man]

Originally posted by SkFy:

Originally posted by Yes Man:

duh the freaking auction house is not working for me at all so no clue

Well need max lvl to use it i believe.
Guess you not max lvl yet then?

I unlocked it but when i open it there's nothing to buy, completely empty, only sell stuffs.

[SkFy]

Originally posted by MekaDeth:

I've never played an MMO where the end game wasn't disappointing at release, this is why I am in no rush to reach max level, there is so much free content if you stop to smell the roses instead of trying to win a pointless sperm race.

I had fun even after rushing max lvl in Tera, Aion, BnS, Lineage2, Gw2 and many other mmorpgs... i think that's a bad argument i only ever heard use at D4 release.
In fact rushing to max lvl is preferable in most of those games, then items are still worth more money so you can easily stack on some gold to use later/use to buy cash shop gems..

You're just wrong if you think rushing max lvl in an mmorpg is a bad thing.
It only is when there's no/bad end game content.

[mikerubio]

i have made 15k Luzent in 7 days whitout even grinding for it, thats 240$ worth of luzent, yes i was a bit lucky whit the gildboss weapon drop whit a good trait that sold for 6k luzent, but still whitout it only selling blue traits (the good ones) i made 9k, how is the game so pay to win when you can make around 150$ ingame currency whitin a Week ? whitout even grinding for it ?

[Morromatto]

I have a preference for the middle game in MMOs, not the end game.

[SkFy]

Originally posted by mikerubio:

i have made 15k Luzent in 7 days whitout even grinding for it, thats 240$ worth of luzent, yes i was a bit lucky whit the gildboss weapon drop whit a good trait that sold for 6k luzent, but still whitout it only selling blue traits (the good ones) i made 9k, how is the game so pay to win when you can make around 150$ ingame currency whitin a Week ? whitout even grinding for it ?

P2w doesn't mean you can't farm for it or cant farm lucent.
It means you can literally just buy gear/upgrades with real money
And most people now just don't know about them, soon they wont be worth much at all.. yet the p2w people can still swipe just as easily, while you have to work your off.

A game with ranked pvp should never have this.

Also the fact you can ONLY buy these things on auction house with cash store gems should tell you all you need to know.. it's not designed for people farming the game, it's designed for people buying gems.

They pretend to remove item trading for gold to prevent real money trading, then add real money trading to them personally as only option.
It's all clearly about trying to milk as much money as possible..
It's not to help us, the players.. it's to help themselves.

[SkFy]

Originally posted by Morromatto:

I have a preference for the middle game in MMOs, not the end game.

You should be just fine then :p