THRONE AND LIBERTY

THRONE AND LIBERTY

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Serious gameplay issue
After playing this game for a while i came to the conclusion that the combat needs urgent fixes.
The biggest issue with the combat is the Mana. Please remove that. The skills already got a way too long cooldown often leaving you with nothing to do than waiting. But the worst part of this game is the mana cost of skills and it basicaly gets empty after figting 3-5 enemys. Then its so slugish to refill itself that you are constantly waiting on that mana tick to fill up so you can use one skill. This is a horrible way to make a fighting concept, because players feel like their battle flow gets interupted over and over again.

It feels like the early days of FFXIV when they added stamina for skills, it was so unsatisfying and a pain in the butt, and well, it doesnt feel anything better in this game.
Let mana be for mages to cast, but dont anoy other classes with it.

The combat just doesnt feel good or smooth.
Last edited by Verified Error 505; Oct 5, 2024 @ 9:33pm
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PandaSav Oct 5, 2024 @ 9:36pm 
Wait till you reach lvl 50. It gets way quicker with skills and smooth as f when comboing, unless you get stunned XDD. You need to focus on wisdom attribute or mana/mana regen from equipment to make it more fun!

FF14 is garbage combat compared to T&L. I played FF14 since Shadow walker to dawn trail!
Last edited by PandaSav; Oct 5, 2024 @ 9:37pm
James_GT Oct 5, 2024 @ 9:39pm 
It feels smooth until u run out of mana. my healer character did struggle until later. at 45 I had no problems.

my dps character. though. runs out of gas quickly. I'm thinking when I hit higher levels it will also be less of an issue.
Last edited by James_GT; Oct 5, 2024 @ 9:42pm
Originally posted by James_GT:
It feels smooth until u run out of mana. my healer character did struggle until later. at 45 I had no problems.

my dps character. though. runs out of gas quickly. I'm thinking when I hit higher levels it will also be less of an issue.

Sadly it will not
BKC Oct 5, 2024 @ 11:37pm 
If mana is your problem, get gear with mana recovery. Or use mana potions.
Originally posted by BKC:
If mana is your problem, get gear with mana recovery. Or use mana potions.

Nothing of that works because my mana gets burned so asap that it only lasts 1min max.
TLthepilot Oct 5, 2024 @ 11:58pm 
i play s&s/staff and i barely feel like im running outta mana. ive got my skill that regens my mana so high it gets back so fast...add to it the wet status and i get double my regen.

games balanced from what i can tell...if u have mana problems stack more regen.
Gothicc Feeldoe Oct 6, 2024 @ 12:26am 
Have you tried looking at passives/enhances that focus on lower cooldown of certain skills or mana usage and skills that increase mana regen? Mind you all of this while also getting some wisdom and some gear that increases manage recharge rate and overall mana. I havnt run into a problem with mana yet on my tank (sword shield/wand) or my dps character (crossbow/staff). For dps character I had to mix and match with prioritizing mana regen + normal dex stats and what not.

I dont usually get too low in mana but it does drain faster on my dps then it does on my tank. I'd suggest trying out different builds and possibly a different skill rotation maybe add a cooldown period in between mashing your heavy mana based skills to give your mana enough time to recharge (adding mana regen of course).
Gamejunky05 Oct 6, 2024 @ 12:38am 
sometimes i run out of stamina before mana any one else same problem? (wand + sword n shield)
Last edited by Gamejunky05; Oct 6, 2024 @ 12:39am
ButtGravy Oct 6, 2024 @ 12:47am 
Originally posted by Verified Error 505:
Originally posted by BKC:
If mana is your problem, get gear with mana recovery. Or use mana potions.

Nothing of that works because my mana gets burned so asap that it only lasts 1min max.
The problem is your build then.
Hasbulla Oct 6, 2024 @ 1:03am 
100% this game WILL DIE if they dont do something about Greatsword in PvP. Who in there right mind on the dev team said hey, you guys cant have 2 wands but lets give them 3 greatswords if they want. WHO in there right mind thought that was gonna be good for the quality of life in PvP and attracting people to play. You hit 4 buttons to win and theres absolutely nothing you can do. You cant trinket collision, cant evade it. only stack resistance but if theyre stacking perception theres absolutely no way around it. If they dont look into better matchmaking for PvP this game will 100% die within the first 2 months. People are excited to get 50 and go PvP just to get into a lobby where its at least 2 greatswords EVERY GAME because people are just exploiting it because they know its broken. By the end of October if its not fixed i will no longer be playing this game.
K.......... Oct 7, 2024 @ 3:35pm 
Originally posted by PandaSav:
Wait till you reach lvl 50. It gets way quicker with skills and smooth as f when comboing, unless you get stunned XDD. You need to focus on wisdom attribute or mana/mana regen from equipment to make it more fun!

FF14 is garbage combat compared to T&L. I played FF14 since Shadow walker to dawn trail!
The fact that you cannot even spell the expansions correctly seems a little sus
KamparB4UC Oct 8, 2024 @ 12:55pm 
I feel you! Im level 50 now and when it comes to PVP 3v3, i always out of gas, enemy ignoring me. LOL. Im SNS/GS btw.
Originally posted by PandaSav:
Wait till you reach lvl 50. It gets way quicker with skills and smooth as f when comboing, unless you get stunned XDD. You need to focus on wisdom attribute or mana/mana regen from equipment to make it more fun!

FF14 is garbage combat compared to T&L. I played FF14 since Shadow walker to dawn trail!
buslhit you cant fix all the issues with attack speed . its still there. combat is so weak in this game
zvein Oct 11, 2024 @ 1:14pm 
staff dagger here lvl 50 , got full wisdom [60 point there ] , i put the 2 passif skill for regen mana , and a tiny bit of regen mana on my gear and the weak mana potion i get from guild shop , i get out of mana in like after doing my combo twice ,
in donjon, even with the healer circle that heal and help with regen im like doing a break every now and then , in pvp arene its worst , as i do not have the passifs regen to make room for more defensif passifs, and more of my stats in stregth / dex ... if i survive a single fight , im left with 0 mana , sometimes to the point i give them a free kill just to revive full mana , annoying

on top of all of that , tried the regen build on staff mastery , didint help , i dont know what to do on top of that , traits my gear full regen instead to have a ''chance'' ?
Last edited by zvein; Oct 11, 2024 @ 1:18pm
Skillo Oct 11, 2024 @ 1:18pm 
Ive noticed that tanks ran into this issue the most. Not sure if its fixable with proper build/passives but definitely a common problem.
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