THRONE AND LIBERTY

THRONE AND LIBERTY

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Worgin Oct 5, 2024 @ 9:00pm
Coop Dungeons - Dimensional Contract Tokens
I assume this is a control to prevent a form of farming, or bots, but this system is going to cost you players. Unless you add a way to either increase/earn more tokens, or reduce the cost per run.

The developer who suggested, and directors who approved, clearly do not know their audience well. Lets gate one of the most popular aspect of MMOs heavily, the community will enjoy that.
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Deadly Oct 5, 2024 @ 9:04pm 
Numbers already dropping huge not even a week since launch..the zerg style Pvp may work in Korea but in America it will never fly....Ever
James_GT Oct 5, 2024 @ 9:09pm 
Originally posted by Deadly:
Numbers already dropping huge not even a week since launch..the zerg style Pvp may work in Korea but in America it will never fly....Ever
it has pve. today's peak was just shy of the all time high so not sure what huge drop u are talking about



Originally posted by Worgin:
I assume this is a control to prevent a form of farming, or bots, but this system is going to cost you players. Unless you add a way to either increase/earn more tokens, or reduce the cost per run.

The developer who suggested, and directors who approved, clearly do not know their audience well. Lets gate one of the most popular aspect of MMOs heavily, the community will enjoy that.
I don't like it either. though I probably won't be effected. you get enough for 2 a day. it will also pool up if you don't run dungeons thru the week.

I think it's to slow the amount of gear people are allowed to attain. to create scarcity
Last edited by James_GT; Oct 5, 2024 @ 9:10pm
Timberwolf Oct 6, 2024 @ 2:12am 
The problem is, you regenerate enough tokens to run 3 dungeons a day, but the max you can have is 15.

Which would take you 5 days of not playing to get to the cap (6 if you go negative since it allows you to run one extra dungeon if you're at zero).

The biggest issue I see, is every game with a time gate like this has died in the U.S. markets. People don't want to play a game that has time gates like a mobile game. There is a reason they play on PC and not on their phone.
Last edited by Timberwolf; Oct 6, 2024 @ 2:14am
Morzan {Mad Dog} Oct 6, 2024 @ 6:20am 
You literally get tokens as you complete objectives in the dungeon. On top of that, you passively get a certain amount every 24 hours. So if you dont have time to actively do dungeons through the day, dont worry, you get enought o run a few and youre good. If you run them actively, again, youre good because you get the currency AS YOU PROGRESS through the dungeon.
Worgin Oct 6, 2024 @ 7:22am 
One of my previous guilds in ESO was Dungeon Runners... we focused on HM for the solo, vet content. When I was in WoW we did Mythic, Mythic+ far more than raids. There is a reason Blizzard & Zenimax spent a great deal of resources developing systems and rankings to allow people to dive deeper and in a more competitive environment, people enjoy the small group dungeon crawls. NCSOFT has missed the boat, at least early release. I truly hope they evolve the dungeon system to allow you to run as needed, and not be gated by how many Dimensional Contract Tokens you have.
Last edited by Worgin; Oct 6, 2024 @ 7:28am
kalzy Oct 6, 2024 @ 1:27pm 
Originally posted by Deadly:
Numbers already dropping huge not even a week since launch..the zerg style Pvp may work in Korea but in America it will never fly....Ever

Thats clearly a lie, the game hit its all time peak just an hour ago (almost 350k) so idk what you're talking about
Mr Rabbit Oct 6, 2024 @ 2:32pm 
false... i have done 10 dungeons today and i have not got ANY tokens... like wtf... its broken... im wasting my time...
You do not get token while doing the dungeon, this is false information. You get token with time that pass. You can do 3 dungeon run PER DAY thats it. We got to the dungeon me and my friend. I am ready to grind that dungeon FOR HOURS. But i already cant do it anymore...So we went to do Morokai...a PvPVE WORLD boss...so basically you are trying to kill a boss while everyone just backstab you. Completely stupid. So they dont want you to dungeon delve but they encourage you to waste your time getting killed by small ♥♥♥♥♥♥ kids. Yeah. Hard pass.
H0w Oct 7, 2024 @ 6:55am 
why are you so focused on doing dungeons? You do dungeons, then you move to contracts, then do w/e you want, farm open world dungeons or complete the exploration quests. If you want and a lobby simulator to farm dungeons, the best game for that is WOW
xCrystal Oct 9, 2024 @ 5:47am 
Originally posted by Morzan {Mad Dog}:
You literally get tokens as you complete objectives in the dungeon. On top of that, you passively get a certain amount every 24 hours. So if you dont have time to actively do dungeons through the day, dont worry, you get enought o run a few and youre good. If you run them actively, again, youre good because you get the currency AS YOU PROGRESS through the dungeon.
I did all Dungeon quests, and never get any tokens.. I always get only the 900tokens pe day thats all..
Subsonic Oct 9, 2024 @ 5:52am 
Originally posted by Worgin:
I assume this is a control to prevent a form of farming, or bots, but this system is going to cost you players. Unless you add a way to either increase/earn more tokens, or reduce the cost per run.

The developer who suggested, and directors who approved, clearly do not know their audience well. Lets gate one of the most popular aspect of MMOs heavily, the community will enjoy that.

They know what they are doing perfectly well, if you do not pay, they want you to feel the door in multiple ways, they are just looking for the people that pay, the F2P is just to entice you in the sunken cost fallacy, be it time, money or desire.
Saitana Oct 9, 2024 @ 6:19am 
Originally posted by Morzan {Mad Dog}:
You literally get tokens as you complete objectives in the dungeon. On top of that, you passively get a certain amount every 24 hours. So if you dont have time to actively do dungeons through the day, dont worry, you get enought o run a few and youre good. If you run them actively, again, youre good because you get the currency AS YOU PROGRESS through the dungeon.

You get Abyssal Contract Tokens which is for open world Abyss Dungeons that you farm.
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Date Posted: Oct 5, 2024 @ 9:00pm
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