How are the MTX in this game, and is there any P2W?

[Ravenesque]

I played in the Beta but wasn't sure about the monetization for launch. Is it MTX heavy, and is there any P2W?

Thanks.

[Kazuto]

yeah its p2w for endgame but its still enjoyable f2p

[OneNineDeepSilence]

If you want to be the top of the top of course. Still need to spend a lot of time as well, can't just buy everything. To keep being at the top still have to grind the top spots, at least for now, because not much are sold at the Auction House (someone needs to have it first, and willing to sell it, and for now most are getting for themselves and their guildies). A good item is 2500 Lucent or such, that's ~ 50 $ for just one weapon (you need 2, then armors and so on, and these are not even tier 2, that will come in future updates)

But if you are fine with just enjoying "the rest of the game", then can slowly gear up from what the game gives the easy way. Most likely still need at least Battle Pass and such, but no need to pay more than the price of a subscription per month, about 10-20 $ a month.
Or you can play 24/7 and get lucky and sell good stuff for Lucent (trait extract and such) and get by from that. It's either way time or money spent is needed to get anywhere decent level.

Or who knows, maybe they will start giving out purple gear for free, if the game starts to die, to keep people playing. But without paying or spending huge amount of time, this will take very long time to not be far behind in gear score.

[Ravenesque]

Originally posted by OneNineDeepSilence:

If you want to be the top of the top of course. Still need to spend a lot of time as well, can't just buy everything. To keep being at the top still have to grind the top spots, at least for now, because not much are sold at the Auction House (someone needs to have it first, and willing to sell it, and for now most are getting for themselves and their guildies). A good item is 2500 Lucent or such, that's ~ 50 $ for just one weapon (you need 2, then armors and so on, and these are not even tier 2, that will come in future updates)

But if you are fine with just enjoying "the rest of the game", then can slowly gear up from what the game gives the easy way. Most likely still need at least Battle Pass and such, but no need to pay more than the price of a subscription per month, about 10-20 $ a month.
Or you can play 24/7 and get lucky and sell good stuff for Lucent (trait extract and such) and get by from that. It's either way time or money spent is needed to get anywhere decent level.

Or who knows, maybe they will start giving out purple gear for free, if the game starts to die, to keep people playing. But without paying or spending huge amount of time, this will take very long time to not be far behind in gear score.

Thanks for the detailed response. So basically I could just farm and get everything if I wanted but it would just take longer? Is it similar to Warframe in that aspect?

[AFC_HIGHBURY]

Originally posted by Ravenesque:

Originally posted by OneNineDeepSilence:

If you want to be the top of the top of course. Still need to spend a lot of time as well, can't just buy everything. To keep being at the top still have to grind the top spots, at least for now, because not much are sold at the Auction House (someone needs to have it first, and willing to sell it, and for now most are getting for themselves and their guildies). A good item is 2500 Lucent or such, that's ~ 50 $ for just one weapon (you need 2, then armors and so on, and these are not even tier 2, that will come in future updates)

But if you are fine with just enjoying "the rest of the game", then can slowly gear up from what the game gives the easy way. Most likely still need at least Battle Pass and such, but no need to pay more than the price of a subscription per month, about 10-20 $ a month.
Or you can play 24/7 and get lucky and sell good stuff for Lucent (trait extract and such) and get by from that. It's either way time or money spent is needed to get anywhere decent level.

Or who knows, maybe they will start giving out purple gear for free, if the game starts to die, to keep people playing. But without paying or spending huge amount of time, this will take very long time to not be far behind in gear score.

Thanks for the detailed response. So basically I could just farm and get everything if I wanted but it would just take longer? Is it similar to Warframe in that aspect?

content isn't time gated in Warframe (I know you have to wait for crafting to complete but leveling isn't content) you have a few rewards from dungeon runs a day in this along with a number of contracts. While it's possible to farm everything it just isn't the same, also keep in mind it's a PvP game and while the whales swipe and buy gear off the AH your relying on RNG they'll have the advantage.

[Vambrace]

Originally posted by Ravenesque:

Originally posted by OneNineDeepSilence:

If you want to be the top of the top of course. Still need to spend a lot of time as well, can't just buy everything. To keep being at the top still have to grind the top spots, at least for now, because not much are sold at the Auction House (someone needs to have it first, and willing to sell it, and for now most are getting for themselves and their guildies). A good item is 2500 Lucent or such, that's ~ 50 $ for just one weapon (you need 2, then armors and so on, and these are not even tier 2, that will come in future updates)

But if you are fine with just enjoying "the rest of the game", then can slowly gear up from what the game gives the easy way. Most likely still need at least Battle Pass and such, but no need to pay more than the price of a subscription per month, about 10-20 $ a month.
Or you can play 24/7 and get lucky and sell good stuff for Lucent (trait extract and such) and get by from that. It's either way time or money spent is needed to get anywhere decent level.

Or who knows, maybe they will start giving out purple gear for free, if the game starts to die, to keep people playing. But without paying or spending huge amount of time, this will take very long time to not be far behind in gear score.

Thanks for the detailed response. So basically I could just farm and get everything if I wanted but it would just take longer? Is it similar to Warframe in that aspect?

This is true but understand during that long, long time you take to catch of as F2P you will get dominated by P2W players and they will likely always be ahead of you... The gear caps will raise and they will be set up to launch forward at an incredible pace while you linger behind getting face rolled.

Don't get it twisted F2P players in P2W games are entertainment for the P2W players...

[Ravenesque]

Originally posted by AFC_HIGHBURY:

Originally posted by Ravenesque:

Thanks for the detailed response. So basically I could just farm and get everything if I wanted but it would just take longer? Is it similar to Warframe in that aspect?

content isn't time gated in Warframe (I know you have to wait for crafting to complete but leveling isn't content) you have a few rewards from dungeon runs a day in this along with a number of contracts. While it's possible to farm everything it just isn't the same, also keep in mind it's a PvP game and while the whales swipe and buy gear off the AH your relying on RNG they'll have the advantage.

Ah okay thanks!

[Ravenesque]

Originally posted by Vambrace:

Originally posted by Ravenesque:

Thanks for the detailed response. So basically I could just farm and get everything if I wanted but it would just take longer? Is it similar to Warframe in that aspect?

This is true but understand during that long, long time you take to catch of as F2P you will get dominated by P2W players and they will likely always be ahead of you... The gear caps will raise and they will be set up to launch forward at an incredible pace while you linger behind getting face rolled.

Don't get it twisted F2P players in P2W games are entertainment for the P2W players...

Yeah, I feared as much and I agree with that last statement

[DAWN OF THE DEAD]

amazon + Korean mmo

[CyberDown]

Originally posted by THECAPTAINGHOST:

amazon + Korean mmo

someone needing to make a thread about this, given the millions of similair threads, and all the online info on youtube ect, this isnt the kind of crowd that can put two things together and come to a conclusion.

I cant imagine taking this game seriously enough to spend big, im sure a few will though.

[r_c]

I’m currently lvl 30 and the mtx are not a problem. I never see any pop ups trying to get me to go to the shop or anything like that. Haven’t been pay walled or felt like I had to grind to progress. That said I knew going in that this is primarily a pvp focused game at end game which I’m not really interested in so I’ll probably play through the story and do what I can as a solo player.

It is said that end game pvp is pay to win but I don’t know as I am not there yet but you can spend real money to buy stuff so I guess it probably is lol. But I am a solo/group player not a paper.

[Ravenesque]

Originally posted by CyberDown:

Originally posted by THECAPTAINGHOST:

amazon + Korean mmo

someone needing to make a thread about this, given the millions of similair threads, and all the online info on youtube ect, this isnt the kind of crowd that can put two things together and come to a conclusion.

It's pretty easy to put two and two together and come to a conclusion but sometimes people want to engage with others and get feedback instead of a review site or a possible sponsored video where there's no interaction.