THRONE AND LIBERTY

THRONE AND LIBERTY

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VINE 5 Thg10, 2024 @ 9:09am
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lvl 50 Dungeon Boss Mechanics are too hard for most people
It's the first week and already I have a 33% completion rate on dungeons because everyone quits on bosses. Cave of Destruction is the easiest of all of them and people are still quitting because they can't figure out the mechanics.

The party board is also useless because the best groups are requiring ilvl 2000 to get in, which at this point is reserved for the p2w crowd.

Fix your boss mechanics. It's that simple. They are too hard, too buggy, and too convoluted. These sorts of mechanics are fun, but only for players who want those hard fights. I can do them, but when I see people quitting left and right over them on the easiest boss, there's a major problem.
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Firecam 16 Thg10, 2024 @ 9:20pm 
GW1 is not an mmo but it's still the only game that i played for multiple years. It's way easier now since you can solo with full custom heroes but back in the day doing those with real players were actually a real challenge.
Bosses are not difficult. The problem is lag, and I would even say playing with controller has a lot of issues.

1. The game has random lag. I got over 1GBps download speed, its not me. Yet I can be doing the chains or lever on Temple of Slaughter and randomly none of my inputs do anything at all, im stuck flying in the air, and then randomly i rubber band back and im falling to the ground. Even without that the pinions in the air are buggy. Half the time I don't even get an option to grab them.

2. Interaction distance for grapple with controller seems shorter. I have to get really close to something to grapple to it.

The difference with other mmo's is that what happens on your screen is what happens for you on your screen. Even if its not exactly what others see, you don't randomly get hit by an AOE on your screen when you are out of the AOE, but on another players screen you were in it.

As for boss mechanics, I would say their all garbage.Fighting the bug boss, having to stand on a pillar, and fly to a location to kill a bug is just a pretty dumb mechanic. Having to fight the Chimera or what ever in temple of slaughter and pull a lever, just to be able to pull the chains is a dumb mechanic. The whole flying thing should be removed and your only required to pull the chains.

I've played FF14, and it has the best boss mechanics of any MMO, even garbage WoW. Some of their boss mechanics are so hard for the hardest challenges in the game, that 99.9% of players never beat them, or players resort to using hacks to do the mechanics which basically all WoW players do for every single fight in the game.

For entry level dungeons these dungeons should be much more simple for entry level T1 purple gear that will be replaced when the future zones and T2 + come. They can make the mechanics harder over time. It doesn't help that the combat is clunky, especially on controller, which is just a million times more inferior to the cross hotbar that FF14 uses for controller, or even the hot bar swapping system that Elder Scrolls Online uses for controllers.
NICKTNT 16 Thg10, 2024 @ 10:52pm 
its strong first its in a dungen second everyone is under 2800 strenght
MOnzik 16 Thg10, 2024 @ 11:00pm 
there is yt videos of mechanics..... how numb u can be if u cant hit those mechanics in just one watch.... its not BDO skill combos ... some poeple just need to play simulator or something for real... they just want stand and press one button :DD
Lần sửa cuối bởi MOnzik; 16 Thg10, 2024 @ 11:01pm
Signex 16 Thg10, 2024 @ 11:05pm 
Nguyên văn bởi MnZo:
there is yt videos of mechanics..... how numb u can be if u cant hit those mechanics in just one watch.... its not BDO skill combos ... some poeple just need to play simulator or something for real... they just want stand and press one button :DD

Some don't explain it well. I figured out mechanics on my own though.
zvein 16 Thg10, 2024 @ 11:06pm 
Nguyên văn bởi Siameasy:
2000 gs is not the p2w crowd. you can get it with blue gear and 1 purple weaponwith random traits.
im purple chest [from quest] and the rest if full blue, randomly traited [ super easy to trait blue ] epic skills , and im 2350 gs
Smokin'n'Strokin 16 Thg10, 2024 @ 11:22pm 
im sorry but if you are having a hard time on karnix then quit the game
Buddha 16 Thg10, 2024 @ 11:24pm 
p2w ? do we play the same game? im full free 2 play and i have no problems to getting gear 2200 up, or getting in groups etc. you can easy earn everything in game. even the paid coins.
Money Christ 16 Thg10, 2024 @ 11:27pm 
All of the mechanics are easy beyond belief if you take 3 minutes to watch a guide.

Yes, literally 3 minutes. PvE's difficulty is literally just knowledge checks and countering the purp attacks.

3 minute guides exist for every boss. Make sure your group knows mechanics before you pull.

God forbid we not just stand there in fire braindead making numbers.

If you think this is too hard, find something else.
Sneygel 16 Thg10, 2024 @ 11:31pm 
In Our Guild and the Groups i play with its perfect. We started dungeons with GS 1800 and it was really doable and not that hard. We watched the Mechanics and did it. After this week, we grinded hard (No P2W) got GS2800 and now just melt through all dungeons and its way to easy now... so i guess the the balance is okay
Ϻegіsϯ○sz 16 Thg10, 2024 @ 11:40pm 
Go play Lost Ark if you think that bosses here are hard XDDDD
Hi11Zone 16 Thg10, 2024 @ 11:40pm 
everyone talking about bosses hgow about we nerf trash im sick of trash pulls they should die in 2 hits its effin trash
FLTWYT 16 Thg10, 2024 @ 11:43pm 
you want a definition of hard for newbies / learners? Go Play Lost Ark solo join lobbies fresh and blind from raid mechanics. The difference is night and day.
Communication Skills Fail
Research Skills Fail
Initiation Skills Fail

There are even 3 minute video guides out there in youtube explaining how easy/cheeseable some of these dungeons are.

Host a party and lower the CP, talk to people in the party while waiting for some members

Atleast, this game has doable solutions while some MMO's are CP/item level gear dependent, and most of which requires you to watch long youtube videos, which you need to rewatch a couple of times - and getting flamed in the dungeon a couple of times -as a newbie/learner- because you made the team go wiped out
Lần sửa cuối bởi FLTWYT; 16 Thg10, 2024 @ 11:43pm
Chaosward™ 16 Thg10, 2024 @ 11:44pm 
Crazy theory here but I detail the mechanics in every dungeon and if I see players doing something wrong I repeat the mechanic explanation - also 2k is full blue +9 without traits nothing special.
Zoooom 16 Thg10, 2024 @ 11:45pm 
Ah ive done all co-op dungeons in this game several times succesfully. Dungeons are not hard at all just block when boss does his big blokable hit and dont stand in aoe. Im playing as healer.
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