THRONE AND LIBERTY

THRONE AND LIBERTY

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Farinha Oct 4, 2024 @ 12:41am
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Why there is FSR2 instead of FSR3.1?
This game is Nvidia bound to sell RTX 40's? I have an RTX 30 and cannot use the FG bc it's only available for DLSS+FG, and this FSR2 is garbage.

Please add the FSR3.1+FG, it would benefit everyone, I even had better experiences with other games using FSR3.1 instead of DLSS (TLOU Part 1 is an example).

Many MMORPG players still have cards like the 1060, RX580, 1660 and so on, so it would even be good for the health of the game as it would give many more people the opportunity to get to know and stay in the game.

One of the main reasons i'm asking about it is bc the game is having a lot of stutterings, even with more powerful machines than mine, in areas like the first dungeon that only have few mobs and a kinda simple scenario.
Last edited by Farinha; Apr 21 @ 9:01pm
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Farinha Oct 6, 2024 @ 10:02pm 
Originally posted by ButtGravy:
Originally posted by Farinha:

If you check the players who where playing the KR version before, almost everyone was using the DLSS to FSR3 mod
Proof? Looks like confirmation bias to me. Social media is not the vast majority of players.

Just look at reddit, but you using this as an excuse to "most people don't even know about" is like a poor excuse to me, players are players, knowing about it or not, eventually more people will know about and use it if available
Label07 Oct 6, 2024 @ 10:15pm 
Originally posted by Farinha:
Originally posted by El Hobbit:
FSR 3 uses a DirectX 12-based swap and replace chain that, broadly speaking, is what asynchronously handles all workloads related to optical flow and frame generation.

Unreal Engine 5 offers an alternative known as RHI, a backend that does not depend on any type of platform and that could solve this problem.

However, keep in mind that it does not allow working asynchronously, which means that this workload would have to be executed serially, which would have a considerable impact on performance, and frame synchronization would be carried out by the framework. of the Unreal Engine, which would make it necessary to activate V-Sync.

I suppose that the code of this game is optimized so that it works fairly well on both consoles and PC, without having to make separate versions of it. So...think about this.

Xbox series x and series s works with directX 12, but not PS5.

The funny thing is that people used a lot the mod that converts DLSS into FSR3 that is available on Nexus Mods in the Korean version of the game, but here in the Global version the mod is blocked by the EAC.

This shows how good it would be and would attract a lot more people to play the game, since not everyone has access or can have an RTX40 at the moment, for example I'm not going to change my 3060Ti because of this, but it would be cool if I had access to FSR3. 1+FG
AGS like to charge for "mods" or "addons" see gearsets in New World.

Isn't this game on UE4? I thought maybe it was an engine limitation why we only have FSR2 (which sucks in comparison to 3). I don't know the tech details why I know from experience in games like Darktide, FSR3 + frame gen really helped that game for me.
nvidia frame gen and amd frame gen are both trash
Farinha Oct 7, 2024 @ 12:15am 
Originally posted by Label07:
Originally posted by Farinha:

The funny thing is that people used a lot the mod that converts DLSS into FSR3 that is available on Nexus Mods in the Korean version of the game, but here in the Global version the mod is blocked by the EAC.

This shows how good it would be and would attract a lot more people to play the game, since not everyone has access or can have an RTX40 at the moment, for example I'm not going to change my 3060Ti because of this, but it would be cool if I had access to FSR3. 1+FG
AGS like to charge for "mods" or "addons" see gearsets in New World.

Isn't this game on UE4? I thought maybe it was an engine limitation why we only have FSR2 (which sucks in comparison to 3). I don't know the tech details why I know from experience in games like Darktide, FSR3 + frame gen really helped that game for me.

It uses UE4 but the most strange thing is that with a simple mod people was changing the DLSS to FSR3 and they were able to use the FG with cards like the GTX 1060, so i though at least the devs could say to us if there is a possibility to modify the engine so they could add the FSR3 natively, even if it's naturally exclusive for UE5, or just let us use this mod without being caught by this damn EAC from the Global version if they couldn't add it to the game
Last edited by Farinha; Oct 7, 2024 @ 12:16am
Manoman Oct 7, 2024 @ 12:39am 
Don't worry, DLSS 3.0 does not work correctly, do the test with FG activated and deactivated, you will see the fps have a big change, but just do the test with DLSS activated and deactivated, the fps does not move, normally the principle of DLSS whether it is quality or balance or performance you must have a good fps, nothing in any configuration, just FG works, so all DLSS users no more fps
RealtalkxDEx Oct 7, 2024 @ 12:48am 
Sorry for my stupid question but what is FG
p00se2 Oct 7, 2024 @ 1:06am 
Originally posted by BFTRRealtalkxDEx:
Sorry for my stupid question but what is FG


frame generation
Altru Oct 7, 2024 @ 1:34am 
Originally posted by Manoman:
Don't worry, DLSS 3.0 does not work correctly, do the test with FG activated and deactivated, you will see the fps have a big change, but just do the test with DLSS activated and deactivated, the fps does not move, normally the principle of DLSS whether it is quality or balance or performance you must have a good fps, nothing in any configuration, just FG works, so all DLSS users no more fps

Of course, and in many videos where they test in this game DLSS 3 and FSR3 works perfectly, so that's your problem.
Last edited by Altru; Oct 7, 2024 @ 1:34am
Signex Oct 7, 2024 @ 1:50am 
Fps is all over the place. Using dlss balanced, it ranges from 40-90fps. Rtx 2080 ti and ryzen 5700x3d at 3440x1440.
Altru Oct 7, 2024 @ 1:52am 
It always makes me laugh, in every such topic there is a few percent of people who have high-end graphics and crying about how bad FSR or DLSS is. Where over 90% of people have cards like 1660, 1060, 2060 etc. Understand, no one cares about your opinion, because this technology is supposed to serve so that older cards can still be used, not thrown in the trash.

No one cares that DLSS is 10% better than FSR since Nvidia itself limits it to one generation, most people won't see the difference in quality but will notice a higher number of fps. More and more people are using FRS 3, more and more people are creating mods with FSR 3 and FG for games that don't support them.

Nexus is currently worthless, there are groups on discord that create mods based on FSR 3 for practically every new game that doesn't have it. And more and more people are using them. FSR 3 is not limited to hardware and works on even officially unsupported cards like GTX970.
Last edited by Altru; Oct 7, 2024 @ 1:53am
Manoman Oct 7, 2024 @ 3:52am 
I like people who are sour in their response, they make me laugh, dlss works for me in all games, except in T&L, you seem to put me in the category of old graphics card, but I have a 4060TI and I play more with options in medium when high.

so I imagine that the numerous posts about graphic problems for people who even have 4090, 4080 (big card) do not exist?

One last thing if you have an Nvidia card that you use FSR 3.0 (open source) you cannot activate the FG since it is in the AMD card software options
Gioke Oct 7, 2024 @ 5:53am 
Originally posted by Manoman:
I like people who are sour in their response, they make me laugh, dlss works for me in all games, except in T&L, you seem to put me in the category of old graphics card, but I have a 4060TI and I play more with options in medium when high.

so I imagine that the numerous posts about graphic problems for people who even have 4090, 4080 (big card) do not exist?

One last thing if you have an Nvidia card that you use FSR 3.0 (open source) you cannot activate the FG since it is in the AMD card software options
Untrue, you can use FSR 3.0 FG even on Nvidia cards.
Manoman Oct 7, 2024 @ 7:49am 
Originally posted by Gioke:
Originally posted by Manoman:
I like people who are sour in their response, they make me laugh, dlss works for me in all games, except in T&L, you seem to put me in the category of old graphics card, but I have a 4060TI and I play more with options in medium when high.

so I imagine that the numerous posts about graphic problems for people who even have 4090, 4080 (big card) do not exist?

One last thing if you have an Nvidia card that you use FSR 3.0 (open source) you cannot activate the FG since it is in the AMD card software options
Untrue, you can use FSR 3.0 FG even on Nvidia cards.

how plz?
Maginera Oct 7, 2024 @ 8:22am 
Originally posted by ButtGravy:
Originally posted by Maginera:
FG is trash either it is the one from amd or nvidia
We aren't talking about frame generation here.
yes the OP was, learn to read
Maginera Oct 7, 2024 @ 8:26am 
Originally posted by Manoman:
Don't worry, DLSS 3.0 does not work correctly, do the test with FG activated and deactivated, you will see the fps have a big change, but just do the test with DLSS activated and deactivated, the fps does not move, normally the principle of DLSS whether it is quality or balance or performance you must have a good fps, nothing in any configuration, just FG works, so all DLSS users no more fps
if you don't get more frames with DLSS then you have a better GPU than CPU, this is a mmo with huge amount of player, you need a strong CPU, always has been for MMO's nothing new
Or maybe update your nvidia with the latest driver that is specially for Throne & Liberty
Last edited by Maginera; Oct 7, 2024 @ 8:28am
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